Coming up on The Weekend View. How the new season of Love Island is dealing with a major manosphere invasion. Plus, is a track on Madonna's new album a confession that she still can't quit her ex, Sean Penn, almost four decades later? And why Oscar-winning director Christopher Nolan is gushing about Zendaya being an absolute goddess and his epic new blockbuster, The Odyssey. I love it for her. And how Snooki had an Oscar worthy excuse after her kids caught a clip of her kinda wildlife on the Jersey Shore.
It all starts now. On The Weekend View. (upbeat music) Welcome to The Weekend View. Thank you, thank you. Now, hold on, hold on. You guys are gonna make our husbands look bad. How many of you get applause like that at home? - Every single day.
- Yeah. - Okay, here's a topic. Love Island USA is the number one show on streaming right now, which has become such a pop culture sensation that it's attracting viewers you may not expect. - Do you watch Love Island? - Yeah, I do. Yeah. Malia and Sasha, that's mother-daughter time. - Okay. - You know, because, and they're behind. They got me hooked. And I was like, "Have you started the next season?" And they were like, "No, we're busy." It's like, "Duh, you need to, okay.
You need to get some more free time." - Wow, the post-presidency years must be fun for them. According to an article in Cosmo, this season of Love Island is being conquered by the manosphere, and they seem like a needy, needy bunch, watch. - So whose kisses actually did feel better? - Both, Melanie and Sol. But again, I know Sol's pretty busy. - So do you know what's crazy, do you know what's mad? What you said? The fact that you said how you are with her with something you haven't felt this whole time with Saul. - Just like wanted, bro. Because with Melanie, I've had to do nothing but chase.
- Right. - I gotta say what I gotta say though. - Hold on, enough. - Just enough, whatever. - That's cool. - Let him speak. - This whole time I have been here, I have poured into you. This whole time. I picked you time and time again. Even when the first day, nobody picked me. You feel me? Let's not forget that part. - Oh my God. - They're all adorable. - They're all good looking guys, but what's their problem?
- They could be my children, but I mean. - They are young. - Yeah. - So, are guys like this in it for the thrill of the chase? What are they in it for? Are men so needy that they need this constant attention from women, or what? - Who's not needy? I think women like that too. - No, men are, oh come on. Men are genetically more needy than women. - You think? I would love someone to.
- I mean. - Maybe. - The men agree. - Those are only women clapping. (laughing) - No, but I think everyone likes to be chased or wanted. I mean, I don't think that's unique to a man. - I don't know. You know, this generation may be different. You know, my son is this generation, so he's gonna be 24 in August. - He's the least needy person I know. - Well, actually, when it comes to friendships and especially like, friendships with girls and relationships, He likes to be chosen.
He's like, she really likes me. And I'm always like, what's there not to like? Like, you're a great person, you're a good human being. And I always feel that the power is in the choosing. You know, I saw Manny, I saw somebody that was fine. He walked into the church and I was like, I'm gonna go and speak to him. Because, and I chose him. And I think there's more power in that. But I have found, at least with my son, he likes to be liked. He wants to be the person that is liked. - I think both partners deserve to be pursued. And I think in successful relationships, you continue pursuing each other.
I don't, I think it's a little bit of a myth that we project on men that it's like, oh, they don't have the same needs we do and they should only be coming after us. But I would say needy is a turnoff, but being expressive and in tuned with your emotions, that's a turn on. There's, it's a fine line. Like you don't want somebody who's, who's begging for attention from you. You just want someone who says, hey, these are my needs. I need to be chosen or I look at life and men as a buffet. I choose too many, I put way too much on my plate. Oh, you need them to narrow it down for you.
Yeah, I'm gonna need to trust someone other than myself because it all looks delicious and I'm gonna keep eating until someone cuts me off. So did your husband come on to you? I mean, you met him online, right? Yeah, I mean, yes, he came on to me, the dating, I was kind of like waiting, like I really like you, and he was like, girl, we just met. (laughing) - You're the needy one. - So you're needy, you're needy, I see. - Okay, well, Al chased me, but he's been needy ever since.
My entire life is populated by men who need stuff, who need-- - Really, this has happened before? - Yes, I mean, I don't know, maybe-- - Maybe it's you. - Maybe it's me. Maybe it's me that I, but I feel like men need to be guided, need to be told what to do, need to be, you know, have their clothes picked out. And you're the one who's gonna tell them what to do. They see that. So maybe they're not needy, maybe I'm just a bossy bitch. I was gonna say, maybe. Yeah, maybe the problem is me.
Maybe. It might be. How about Steve? You know, Steve is the least needy person in the world. No, his mother let him make his own breakfast when he was in kindergarten. He got dressed by himself. So all that neglect has paid off for me. All that neglect. That's good. Okay, well, Al was spoiled by his mother. Like well into adulthood by his sister. See, that's the opposite. Yeah, I think I have the opposite. Well, so I'm with you about finding the guy.
My first husband, I spotted him in class in college. I hit him on the head with a book. Very subtle. (laughing) And he said to me a few minutes later, he said, "You know, some crazy girl, he knew it was me." And that's how it all started. And with Steve, I saw him naked in a swimming pool. And I said, "I'll have that." At a semi-nudist colony. From a distance, nobody. So you ordered off the menu, you didn't go for the all you can eat buffet? Was it a paperback or was it a hardcover? The book that you hid him in the head with. Not the other thing. No, it wasn't a hard cover.
Yeah, I'm not asking if Steve was a hard cover. I know, I got that mixed up. So yeah. I think it's kind of nice when a guy is a little needy, you know, I like that dynamic a little bit. What do they need though? Emotionally available. Yeah, emotionally available. Like Manny is, I would just, I mean he's very independent and he fixes things and he does everything, but he always checks in with me, you know that. He texts me in the morning, afternoon, he comes home, what do you wanna eat? What are we eating tonight? - Very nice. - Everything, and he wants to be in the same space with me all the time.
- That's a good husband. - I think so. - How about you, Missy? - Same, I need to be wanted and I need to be pursued, but I also pursue back. Like I picked my husband, but I need to know every day that I'm the needy one. (laughing) I am the needy one in the relationship. But now that you have a baby, things are gonna change, the dynamic changes. Have you seen it yet? I'm starting to, the mom is still the center of the universe though, because I still feel like he gravitates toward me slightly more, though he loves his daddy.
Well, because of the boobs, right? Although I just stopped breastfeeding and he still-- Oh, you stopped already? No, he'll still try to tap, yeah, it's like a keg. I know, I know. Wait a minute, how long did you do it for? Four months. Oh, that's it. I wish I could have longer, he's self-weaned. - Oh, good for you. - That's a good enough time. - That's enough time. - Exactly, for three months. - Right, okay. So here's another story.
Fans and critics are loving "Madonna, Madonna, Madonna's" new album, "Confessions II." And there's a lot of speculation that one song titled "Bizarre" is about how she's still hung up on her ex-husband, Sean Penn. Take a listen. (upbeat music) - Why does she have a blanket on her head? (laughing) No really, what is that supposed to be? I also love that the lyrics are so subtle, like it might as well just be titled Sean Penn.
I think it's a veil though. I think it's a veil. It's Madonna. It's Madonna, I think it's a veil. She will wear a veil, she will wear a bra. Yeah, but you know that she's not covering up her nether region. Well, that is a true-- Can I tell you something? If my nether regions looked like that at 70, I wouldn't even be wearing what she's wearing. I mean, I'd be nothing but the veil. You don't know that's not air bra. That's air bra. She looks great, no. She looks great.
- We've seen her on video, she looks amazing. - She's a workout queen too. - She divorced Sean Penn in 1989. So isn't that a little bit like long to be? - That's the year I was born. I feel like it might be time to move on. - No, I think-- - I mean, I love Sean Penn, he'd be hard to get over. - Hasn't she said that he was her true love? - I believe she has reportedly said over and over again. - Where? - Someone asked her during, I think it was either - The Vanity Fair interview was an interview, who out of all the men in your life,
who would you be with or who is your love? And she said, "Sean." Immediately. So he is-- - How long ago was that? - This was recently. - And they were also one of those very tumultuous relationships, which a lot of times those highly passionate relationships are the ones that stick with you. I also read that a few years ago, he brought his daughter to one of her shows and introduced them backstage. So it seems like they still have a positive friendship.
- He was such a, remember, he's kind of like a bad boy, right, and she also had her bad girl era. - Are you holding your breath? - They were so, no, I wish my breasts were this high, Tara. They were so fun together, they were like, you know, rambunctious and adventurous. - And he's turned into such a humanitarian. - And then she married a boring English guy, remember? - She's still married to him, so maybe we don't.
- No, she's not. - Oh, they're not together. - Guy Ritchie, that's been, that means-- - Why is Richie the boy? - He's got a, he's a, Madonna's with like a 29 year old soccer player. - That's Cher. - No. - No, it's Madonna. - Madonna is with, they could be brothers. Madonna's with like a, do we have a picture of the 29 year old soccer player so that we can explain to Sarah? - You have those. - There he goes. - Oh, he's hot. - Yes, this is his, this is her, her, her, her beau. - You know what? So we've had this on set on the show a few times.
- The young one is her current guy. - He just exudes sexism, sexiness. - Sex, he's got a joint. - To Sunny's point, he's a humanitarian. - He's been working in Haiti, he's been working all in these countries. - Remember he won the Oscar and he didn't show up 'cause he was in Ukraine. - Yes. - But they said you're gonna be in love, I read this somewhere, you're gonna be in love three times in your life.
One will be your first love, your puppy love. The next love will become a sort of toxic love that you can't keep, that it won't work out. And then the third is the love you find at the end. Oh. Really? Yeah. What kind of Neapolitan article are you quoting? I think it was a deep philosopher on Instagram. (laughing) We'll be right back, we'll be right back. The Weekend View is sponsored by Roc Skin Care, clinically proven and dermatologist recommended. (upbeat music) - The star studded epic, The Odyssey.
Have you seen it? The Odyssey. - No, you can't see it. - It's not out yet. - Are you gonna see it? Anyway, it's expected to be one of this summer's biggest blockbusters. The cast and director, Christopher Nolan, sat down for an interview with Fandango when Nolan revealed who he thought stole the show, watch. - I heard from you, she got the only perfect? - Oh yeah. - Look at, you're like, I know where this is going. - It was the topic of discussion.
- Oh yeah. - For sure. - Still waiting for mine. (laughing) - Can I ask what the perfect scene was so maybe folks can look on what got you so delighted that day? - I don't even remember which one. She was always perfect. - Wow. - Always perfect. - I felt guilty when I first heard that they were complaining about it, and then I realized it's kind of on them, not me. (laughing) - Wow. - So do you need to hear that kind of praise from your boss? - Oh my God, if we needed to hear the word perfect from Brian, we'd all die.
- Exactly. We couldn't do this job. - We'd die of old age. - Yeah. - who's needy now? (laughing) - Okay, so let's go back to Christopher Nolan. - I kind of feel like getting told that you're perfect by Christopher Nolan is-- - Is really epic. - But what about the others? They want to hear it too. That's embarrassing. - Not everyone can be perfect. - Well, one is her husband. - It's like a certificate that everyone participated in.
- If someone is exceptional at a particular job, at a particular time, it's okay to say that person was great. - You know, it's like-- - No, but he didn't say that. - I'm not saying every-- - Yeah, but here's the thing. If he says it about everybody-- - Everybody doesn't get a troll title if she's not perfect. If he says about everybody that they're perfect, then it means nothing. It's like when somebody says I love you to everybody, then here's my thing. I do love everyone, so I know that. Okay, but that's not, exactly, it loses its meaning.
Maybe she was the best performer. Oh God, again. Please stop touching me! Okay, let's vote. Who's the neediest one on this panel? - You're like a golden retriever, you literally are. - Don't you think it's okay to say, you know, out of all these actors, that one gave the best performance? - No. - Yeah, because if you'd want to be the one to hear it, like to what that would mean to hear it, I wouldn't, for anyone else, I wouldn't want everyone to hear it.
- I mean, have you never heard of a private conversation? He can tell Zendaya when they're alone. - Everybody knows that. - Do you think these people are hurting on their ego? - Yeah, you think Matt Damon's like, laying awake at night? - Yeah, but it's not a lesson as a-- I was asked on national TV how long she breastfed and you wanna talk about private conversations? That's not the same thing. I didn't say, gee, Sarah, you didn't breastfed and she did. I didn't say that. That would be wrong.
I didn't say that, I'm just asking her. So you think it's wrong if there are five people in a cast or there are three, four people and he said-- No, there's a lot more. There's a few people. - I'm the Zendaya of the table. - That's the kind of Maya I am. - But I'm just saying, if the director feels that she gave the best performance, why can't he say that? - I'm with you, Sunny, I agree. - You see, that's why nobody needs to tell you're perfect, because you say that to yourself.
- I have a strong ego, and yet my husband didn't marry me 'cause I'm a bossy bitch like Sunny. I believe we're having Christopher Nolan on the show so you can take it up with him. Where do we go from there? - Christopher Nolan, by the way, I'm really looking for, like it's rare for me to be really looking forward to a movie. This movie has got me excited. - Okay, Snooki, remember Snooki? - Yes, love her. - She became a breakout star of the reality show, Jersey Shore, and she had a lot of wild scenes that were caught on camera, but now she's a mommy
and here's how she handled it when her kids came across some of those scenes on TikTok. - Oh, oh boy. - Lorenzo texted me like a clip of me talking about Gianni about like, oh, he looks so hot tonight, he's gonna get extra pee time. And Lorenzo was like, what's pee time? And he's 14, I'm like, oh, like go to the bathroom more. Like, oh my God. So yeah, my kids are seeing all of that now. It's all on TikTok. So yeah, as of right now, to my kids, it was scripted. I'm an actress and it was fake. So she's what you call a revisionist.
Her kids are 14? Yeah. Okay. Sarah, Sonny, would you tell your kids about all your wild oats that you sowed? Absolutely not. Sonny, you weren't wild? I wasn't wild, but I'm thankful during my college years that there was no social media or iPhones or cameras. Anywhere. Because remember, I actually grew up extremely sheltered. I'm an only child. I was 12 in high school, and I was 16 when I got into college. When I went away, oh man, I was like, Talking about a menu, I was like, wow.
You left me all you can eat buffet, Jenny. Yeah, I wasn't allowed to date, you know, because I was so much younger than the people that I was in school with. And so what my parents didn't know, I'm happy about that. And I would never tell my children. How about you, you gonna tell little baby mama? Little Justin. I'm glad that I was the tail, like I was a little bit before social media as we know it today. Like we had Facebook, we had Instagram, we had like digital cameras at the club. Like nobody kept those photos. And the ones that did make it are so blurry, you can't tell what's happening. So I'm grateful there's not a lot of photographic evidence.
But I think about it on this show sometimes. Since he's been born, I'm a lot more cautious of things that I say around like sex, for example. Because I don't want him to be 14 and the clip resurface and embarrass him. And the language that you use around them as well. You mean on the show? Literally on this show. Yeah. I mean, we talk about things. You should just be yourself. Don't even think about that. Don't do that. - Well, honey, the silver lining to me having no children is me not having to lie to them about all the stuff I do.
- You'd be the one I'd worried about. Like, your stories would be endless. - Remember when you slept with the twins? - Twins! - You're gonna be a take it out on Kelly. - Do you know what, though? Their twin envy is endless. They bring this up every single episode. You slept with twins. Every single episode they bring up the fact that Joy was at a nudist camp and I slept with twins. It's envy.
It's envy 'cause they're boring, Joy. It wasn't envy. But life is a teaching moment, and as a parent it's often how you tell them. So I think that's a great time to tell them about a two for one deal. Good one, we'll be right back. The Weekend View is sponsored by Roc Skin Care, clinically proven and dermatologist recommended. (upbeat music) Sunny was on the Webby Award winning Behind the Table podcast recently, and she admitted that there is a limit to her many talents watch.
- There are a lot of people that think they have a good voice. - That's tough. That's not my ministry. I know I don't have a good voice. So I never, you know, I don't have a good voice. - I do, I do know that. - Remember we had that Halloween thing and you kept on saying, I'm sure you can sing. You have such a good dancer. - You have rhythm, I don't know, like, yeah. - And I'm like, it's not my ministry. - It's not the same, no. - It's not my ministry.
- And we used a lot of auto tune and still. ♪ Remember my name ♪ - And it's still, I cannot sing. You know what my, what's your karaoke song? - Oh man, it's been a minute now. I'm better with like, like 90s hip hop. I can do some like-- - Like rapping. - Yeah, I can do that pretty well. - You know what my song is? - Tyrone. - Oh, I like that. - That's an easy one. - I like that. It's flat, and you're just talking, and everybody sings it with you. That's what you do when you can't sing. After a couple drinks, I do "Careless Whisper,"
George Michael. That's a little rough. I take some runs. That's not a good karaoke song. Now, by the way, you're not alone. Sarah also can't sing at all. So the two of you on that one was rough. Sarah thinks she sings better than she does. She does, yes. You're more in tune with your-- I know that it's not my ministry. I know. Okay, let's hear the song that you like now. Oh, Tyrone?
Yeah, let's hear it. Oh, I sing, okay, let me remember the words. You didn't even drop a beat. Yeah. I'm getting tired of your (beep) You're right, you're captioning. You just never buy me nothing. Okay, all right, that's enough. Wait, wait, wait, I can't sing. Wait, don't. I can't sing. Careless whisper. I said after a couple drinks I could do that. Okay, well do it sober. - I know a little bit. ♪ Never gonna dance again ♪ - That's good.
- That is not bad. - I feel better knowing there's something you're not good at. - I'm terrible at it. - You don't do this at our Christmas party. - I do. - Can we do karaoke? - Can we have a karaoke machine? - Sure, next year, sure. Whatever you want. - All of you have karaoke songs? - Well I need to change mine. Who's yours? Mine was Gloria Gaynor, I Will Survive. But I will say it's the only one that I actually know. And I know it in English and Spanish, 'cause there's a Spanish version.
Sing it in Spanish. (speaking in foreign language) No, I can't sing. Come on. None of us can sing. But I do have a video. Sarah, do you have a karaoke song? I love anything Pat Benatar. Oh, look, you're actually singing, Anna? Yeah, and drunk. I was gonna say, that's the blurry club shot, Alyssa Ray Chase. Yeah, exactly. I could barely make out who it is. - It should, 'cause it's so bad.
- It's bad. - No, but it's a good one 'cause people sing along. - Yeah, that's the key to it. - How about you? - No, we have one more topic. - No, what's your karaoke song? - I don't have any. - You don't have one? - Ronyo, Joy, what's your karaoke song? - I don't have it. I don't have one. - I would not humiliate myself in a karaoke thing. - I know. - I hear you and Brian singing on the podcast all the time.
- We sang, I sang with my husband also in the car. - But I don't have one particular song. - Like songs from the 1940s. - Really? - You love the Eagles, don't you? - You do like the Eagles. - Yeah. - You wanna take a sentimental journey. - Oh, I love that. That's good. - Behind the table streams, wherever you get your podcasts, or you can watch us on Hulu, Disney Plus, or YouTube. And they do watch us on YouTube, 'cause when I was in London, they all came to see my show.
My first ex-husband. Because they saw us on YouTube. Have a great day, everyone. Take a little time to enjoy "The Weekend View".