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I am the president of the UFC, Dana White. UFC fighters collaborate to create what they believe would be my dream fight card. Let's see if I agree. Okay, the main event: who are the two fighters Dana would choose to headline his dream UFC card? Oh. Me against Pereira. Obviously I'm going to destroy it. I'm too fast, too explosive, too efficient, and he has problems with guys who. That's a fight that makes sense. Fast contraction, muscle fibers.
Win or lose, you know, he's talked a lot about Pereira, and I'm sure Pereira would love that fight too. Look, I don't like clowning around. I like this Horiguchi better than the one from a year ago. I like real people who act like themselves. Who are you and why should we care? If he keeps winning, how big of a star do you think he can become? He's been through it all this past year and, literally, he's passed every test. You come in and act weird with your clowning around, but he has absolutely and positively proven to be a real fighter, not someone just trying to get attention. I mean, obviously he's going to want Conor McGregor and Jon Jones in it. They're not
going to fight each other, but I'd probably like to see Conor and Khabib or Conor and Islam face off. I think we need to talk about legendary names like Khabib, like Conor, I mean, a rematch that everyone would watch, for sure. The return of Khabib. And with that kind of hypothesis, Khabib will never return. That's never going to happen. Believe me, when he retired, I offered him everything. I tried to convince him to do one more. He didn't want to. The same goes for Cormier. So I don't think about any of those anymore and I hate hypothetical fights.
What I like is what is possible here and now. You said you offered Khabib many things to try to get him to come back. What kind of things did you offer him to try What does Conor have to show you after his injury before you schedule him back in the program? Uh, I don't know. Conor isn't even close to talking about fighting again. Once that starts to become a reality, then I'll talk about it, but I do n't like ethical arguments. I like real fights. Okay, clearly you don't agree with this lineup. Who would you put in their place? Paddy Pimblett vs. Ilia Topuria is a huge fight that makes sense, can happen, and should happen. Those are the kinds of fights I like to talk about.
Francis Ngannou versus Jon Jones, because we're talking about Jon Jones as the best in history. He beat me in the heavyweight division, and Francis Ngannou wasn't really the best in this division either, but he was the monster in heavyweight history, so the matchup would probably be good. How, by knockout? So he thinks Francis knocks out Jon Jones. Was that what he said? Yes. Yes, I never want to see Francis Ngannou fight again, well, at least not in the UFC. I'm definitely not interested in that fight . I mean, we put a lot of effort into making that fight happen. At that moment, it was the fight that had to happen, and we couldn't make it happen with Francis. And Francis is a bad person. I'm happy to never do business with him again.
In your opinion, is Jon Jones retired? Yes. Jon Jones is definitely retired. I mean, if he wanted to come back for a fight, yeah, I'd love that. I could do it in a minute. We do not agree with this. Who are we replacing? Petr Yan, who is coming off an incredible performance, you know, against Sean O'Malley again. A great fight, an incredible fight that should happen and can happen. That's how I think. I don't think about guys like Francis Ngannou or the days of BJ Penn and things like that I think about Saturday night. I'm excited. Holy God, look at his arms. Christ. Which fourth matchup do you think would be on Dana's dream fight card?
Ronda against Kayla. I mean, I think it's a great, great fight. Fans would watch it. Ronda is a pioneer who broke barriers and brought women to the UFC, and I 'm about to be the best, so I think I'd destroy her however I want. Ronda is retired. I mean, that's one of those cases. Ronda is retired and has moved on to the next chapter of her life, which is family, children and all that. Do n't you think he would come out of retirement, no matter what? I never say never. I highly doubt Ronda will return, and especially that she will come out of retirement to fight at that level But never say never. It's not a decision I would make. I wouldn't call Ronda and say, "Hey, do you want to come out of retirement?" We've reached a point where I
know someone has already finished. I'm no longer chasing Khabib or Daniel Cormier, and definitely not Ronda either. They would have to be the ones to call me and say: hey, I want to talk to you. Ronda says Kayla only has a job in the UFC thanks to her. Do you think it's fair to say that? I would say it's fair to all the women who are in the UFC. It's a fact When Ronda burst onto the UFC scene, there was this whole thing about me saying women would never fight, and then she came along. The first fight was incredible, then Ronda had that streak and, you know, it's just not fair to say. You can't, it's like when people ask me: who's the next Conor McGregor? It doesn't exist.
Okay, obviously we don't agree with Kayla versus Ronda. So, who do you want to put in that fourth spot on your dream billboard? I've already smoked all the ones I can think of off the top of my head. My other fight would be Aspen Ladd versus Jon Jones. Do you think he can handle it? Yes, he is the best of all time. He can do it. Let me think for a bit. Conor is already showing, right? So that's difficult. I think Georges St-Pierre versus Anderson Silva. I don't know if you like confrontation, but there were a lot of rumors. That's a good point. That's another fight I could n't finalize at the time. That's the other fight. Obviously, one of them did
n't like her. You know, you don't want to go back and say, oh, this guy, and make him look bad, but listen, weight categories exist for a reason. Back then, you know, you didn't jump weight classes to become a double champion. Conor was the first to actually do it, to demonstrate that it was possible to have two titles in two different categories. But yes, that would be another one that I didn't manage to accomplish. It would be Georges St-Pierre against Anderson Silva. You're right. What is the final lineup with the Dana editions? Topuria versus Pimblett. We have Aspen Ladd versus Jon Jones. Petr Yan vs. O'Malley and Ilia Topuria is a fight that people would want to see and one that they would probably want to make.
