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wigs, strangulation, drag brunches. Is this made specifically for me? Honey, there's no off switch for glamour. Climb chain, climb. Who gets the lift? A black veil. Hold my hand. She loves a bag. She loves a hat. She loves a coat that's made OF MUPPETS. STOP. SPOILER ALERT. STOP. GO. IS THIS GOOD FOR CBS? HEY THERE. Welcome to my home. I'm Jay Jordan, and I love TV. Like seriously, I love TV so much that I live on a sitcom set. But with so much stuff out there, I don't know what to watch. So I'm enlisting the help of my friends
to pitch me their all-time favorite shows. Can they do it? We shall see. This is Hear Me Out. Jay? Jesse Tyler. I haven't seen you since the Emmy win. Emmy winner in the house. Everyone, please give it up for an Emmy winner. Oh. Yeah. Oh my I hadn't noticed this incredible crew that you have here and your partner. Yes. I'm so excited you're here. I'm trying to commit to a new television show. And as a person who is an expert both in watching TV and in starring in TV, I want to pick your brain. My doctor's always saying, Jay, you got to watch
more TV. So do you have a show that you're passionate about that you might be able to make me get interested in? Oh, I'm going to make your doctor so happy because I have got the perfect show. It is not only a murder mystery, it's also a quirky comedy. Okay. And it has family drama. Jay? Hear me out. Elsebeth. Elsebeth? Have you seen that? No. I keep hearing people talking about it. Mostly the gays. I've heard that a string of crimes around New York City, and Elsbeth is helping the NYPD solve these crimes.
She works with the cops to solve all kinds of murders, and the murders are committed by the best people that you know very well. Murderers. Exactly, but they're big guest stars. Oh, that episode has a huge guest star in it. why didn't you lead with that? I love a big guest star. Elsbeth is like wacky and quirky and fun. It's the Good Wife's fun, silly cousin. More of like the Good Wife's silly aunt.
Okay. Yeah, she's got crazy aunt energy. I love that. Yeah, she loves a bag, she loves a hat, she loves a coat that's made of Muppets. I have a clip for you, okay? Cuz this is where we first meet Elsbeth. Elsbeth has moved from Chicago to New York. Live from the heart of the city, got a lot to tell you. Nice to meet you, slice of pizza with the mozzarella. Wait, is it like so Elsbeth is completely by herself making this man freestyle about New York City just to her? See, she's a quirky aunt, right? a full-on quirky aunt. the best thing about this show.
This is not an Uber. Yeah, but you were heading up this way. Don't worry, I'll check out the rest later. You're so talented. See, isn't Elsbeth nice? She calls him talented after she makes him rap for just her in 28° weather. Also, I see exactly what you're talking about. Full quirky aunt energy, scarf, two huge bags, and the Statue of Liberty foam headpiece. I love that. Oftentimes she will have up to 10 bags on each shoulder. Now, as I said, each murderer is a different very famous person, including Jane Krakowski.
Oh, okay. Broadway legend. Yes. She won a Tony for the show Nine, and in that, she descended from the sky wearing nothing but a sheet as she sang Guido, right? So what does Elsbeth do? They flip it on their head and they have her be a climber. So then Elsbeth goes to interrogate her at the climbing gym. At the climbing gym? Show me. Wait a second. this. It's so funny. You didn't tell me exercise meant climbing walls. Maybe I didn't want you to know. Just as you predicted, more bags. You're never going to see her without a bag. So you think Lewis could have been planning the attack in advance?
Do you see how she's just always moving around? This is part of her quirky aunt energy. She's going to always be all around, moving all around, quirky worky hurky jerky. Turkey lurky. Another Broadway reference. I want to buy Leonard Rosen's apartment. Oh, come on. Elsbeth, GET DOWN FROM THERE. ALSO, Jane Krakowski in like the finest athleisure money can buy and Carrie Preston just straight up in a business suit. is so fun and so campy.
Wait, you think this is campy? Hold on. I built everything I have because of her and I won't let anything stop me from reaching the top. Climb, Jane, climb. That's fun. She got all the way to the top and ELSBETH WAS ALREADY THERE. Oh my gosh. Do you know the feeling you get when you would watch Murder, She Wrote?
Uh-huh. That's what I'm getting from this. Exactly. Guest stars, fun scenes, grizzly murders, but it's still light, lots of jokes, some fun Broadway references. I love this. Who do you want to see on Elsbeth? Okay, you got to name the star and then you got to name the crime that they commit, all right? Okay, okay, okay. Oh, I'll go first. Okay, great. Raul Esparza, Uh-huh. he got caught streaking And I saw it. I watched it. But he has to murder somebody.
OH, ME. ASK WHAT WEAPON. What weapon? You know which one. Um, Bernadette Peters. Yes, this is good. She kills someone because their bravado is too thin. Yes. Get that straight tone out of here. playing a Juilliard teacher. Yes. And she strangles them with one of her own curls. my god. No, she hits them over the head with the American song book. Yes. She kills them with Cole Porter. Yes, yes. And then when she's getting rid of the body, where does she go? Where? Into the woods.
It's lonely in the woods. I think we just wrote [clears throat] an episode. I think we did. I think How do we get residuals on this? No, listen. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm I was on the show. Oh. Okay. All right. Because I had a general meeting after I won an Emmy. I had a general meeting with CBS. And they said, what shows would you want to be on? And I said, Elsbeth and Ghost. Yes. Oh. And I got to play a murderer. And it was so fun when I went in for my fitting, there was just a thousand bags all around the top. And I was like, are these all of Elsbeth's bags? And they said, not all of them.
I got to play a wig maker, which is crazy because my hair is absolutely real. Play the clip. I want to hear it. You are a miracle worker. You like it? Wait a minute. So that's you? Joe's flustered everyone. I'm sorry. I just saw myself on television. What are you doing here, Elsbeth? Oh, sadly, I have to return my wig. I forgot what you said about Muppets until I saw this a beautiful skinned cookie monster fur that she's wearing.
Oh listen, they are not afraid of a bold color, a wild pattern, a fabric that is normally found on the planet Earth. This is what we need. Oh, I'm so sick of minimalism. Maximize. This is beautiful. Hit play. Oh, you're going to love this. He had to cut off a young girl's pony tail. What? Yeah, he snuck up on this 14-year-old girl in the park and snip. I had to have a stunt woman to make sure that I didn't actually cut a child's head off. Isn't that fun? Can you hold it up like a trophy?
Hell yeah. Your Emmy in that pony tail. Exactly. You killed Domenico to remove that threat. I did kill someone by strangling them with a curling iron. But what about IN THE SHOW? THAT'S WHY YOU WANTED ME TO GO TO THE DRAG BRUNCH. You might as well face it, Felix. The wig is up. Come on. Wigs, strangulation, drag brunches. Is this made specifically for me? I love every part of this. Felix West, you are under arrest for the murder of the medical capelli. Normally, I don't have felons on this couch, but I'm making an exception.
Sometimes people ask to be murdered. Okay, so the next clip has speaking of guest stars, this is a big one. Julia Fox. The Safdie's muse herself, Julia Fox of Uncut Gems fame. I love Uncut Gems. course I know who Julia Fox is. Honey, there's no off switch for glamour. You know who told me that? Who? Julia Fox. Good boy. Give me that clip. If you watch this season of Black Veil, then you know the story of Staten Island housewife Raquel Derbouski.
Her firefighter husband Johnny died tragically in a helicopter rescue mission in Puerto Rico, which left no survivors. This is perfect. When you talk about casting, this is perfect. CBS you did your thing. Her journey to find love this season has been watched by millions of people around the world. And what a season it's been. She is on a dating show for widows. Black Veil. Come on. Hey guys. I slept in Johnny's shirt again last night. I slept in Johnny's shirt. Look at her arm. She's holding the selfie thing. You know that was a real camera and she just
had to hold her arm out like this. Ja, can you please take a little bit of time to respect Raquel's grief? She lost that man and now she has to be a grief influencer. I love it. Keep going. Hit play. But here's the thing. Turns out he's not dead. Then it comes back and she kills him. STOP. GOOD. STOP. GO. THE CHICAGO veterinarian and national spokesman for D Dad, Don't Text and Drive, whose wife perished in a car crash while texting him that her cancer was finally in remission.
Okay, pause. Now it's funny because we don't actually KNOW THAT LADY. THAT was a That was some very fun writing. That's what I'm telling you. Can you imagine them submitting that as a drama? So Julia Fox Yes. is playing a widow who is on a dating reality show in the world of Elsbeth. Mhm. I love a show that has other shows in it and I get to talk about this show within a show while promoting a show. Raquel, who gets the lift, a Black Veil. Hold my hand. NEITHER OF YOU. OH. I'M SO SORRY, GUYS. I still love Johnny. And the thing is that you see the people murdering the people, but the fun thing is the mystery of how Elsbeth will figure it out.
It raises the stakes for you, the viewer, because you have the dramatic knowledge that these characters don't. So you're rooting for them to figure it out. And then you sometimes you're like, oh, I hope she doesn't catch this one murderer. Oh, you go, I like that. Felix the wig maker. Do you have any more clips for me, John Lewis? the thing is I do because it's funny, it's wacky, it's kooky, it's murdery. But also, you get to see these actual characters lives. You get to see Elsbeth and her son and Elsbeth and her new boyfriend and you get to see the chief played by Wendell Pierce. Oh, wait a minute. As a black millennial, I love seeing Wendell Pierce as a person with authority any anything. He could
be my chief, he could be my boss, he could be the manager. You want to know why? When Wendell Pierce looks at me and he says he's disappointed at home on the couch, I feel like I actually screwed up. I go, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Wendell Pierce. I'm sorry. Well, guess what? This clip is going to heal you. It's hard for parents to accept their kids as adults. Well, me at least. I'm just going to check in with you. How you feeling? I'm feeling some things. Me too. I need to hear that. You see? Elsbeth is healing hearts.
Don't take all the credit. Mom did most of it. Hey, inserting myself as if I know best was me being a bad dad. That's for me. I have a dinner date. Don't worry, it's not Cameron. Good night, daddy. Oh, he doesn't want her to date that fool. Right? then I think he also doesn't like Cameron. He's got a lot of people he doesn't like. Wait, does she go on a lot of dates on this show? Does she have a lot of different boyfriends or girlfriends or Come in. Who could it be?
Yes, I am GOING TO KEEP OH MY GOD. [screaming] WAIT, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HEY, IT'S BRITNEY IN. SHE PLAYS JULIA. OH, my gosh. OH MY GOSH, BRITNEY, HAPPY to see you. So good to see YOU. BRITNEY INN. Britney Inn, EVERYONE. UM, WE just saw you as Julia. How was that day? Oh my gosh, it was so exciting, but also a little nerve-wracking, if I can be honest. I mean, it's Wendell Pierce. It was a master class, but it was also a huge collaboration. And again, he's so generous, so it was so easy to talk to
him and plan with him and workshop things with him. And we'd do another take. Let's Let's try it this way this time. You know, he'd kind of whisper in my ear and we'd we'd make some magic happen. The clip that I saw, you were fantastic. Thank you. Yes. What's it like having Wendell Pierce play your dad? It is as amazing as you imagine it to be. He is the most generous, warm scene partner. I learned so much just watching him, but also just being in the scenes with him. It's like I don't know, it's a never-ending master class. And then I'm trying to stay present and do the work as well.
It was a heartwarming scene, but then it was still really funny and a comedy. It's still a comedy. Yes. Even with all the murder and the things, it's still a comedy. It's true. I think that's how CBS pitched it. They said, hey, listen, we going to kill some folks. But even with all the murder. But even with all the murder, I promise. I You're going to laugh. You're going to get some fashion in the mix. Yeah. Oh, we might even be in wig or two. Yeah, okay. How does it feel being in New York City shooting Elsbeth and then getting to see the city's reaction to it? People love this show. People like Jeff Hiller love Yes, absolutely. I think my favorite
thing about it is that New York is like another character in the story and on the show. And I think that they do such a good job of just paying tribute to the beauty of New York, uh, their love for New York, uh, Robert and Michelle King's love for New York. You can feel it in the series and how they shoot it. And so I think that's my favorite part. Right, cuz this is a King production. Yes. Okay. And you know them, right? Yes, the Kings. The good wife, the good fight, evil. Say it again. Evil. Yeah, that's how Yeah, that's how you say it. If you're not a show by the Kings, you're going to like the show.
I know we're here to talk about Elsbeth, which I am biased, but I do have another show to pitch to you. Another King show? Wait. Yeah, I know you're on the hunt for something to watch. Okay, Coup pertino. If you love Elsbeth, you are going to love Coup pertino. Say it again. Coup pertino. Coup Cupertino. off the tongue? You know what Coup Okay. rolls off the tongue. Waiter, I want three Coup pertinos for the table.
Yes. You know, Elsbeth has like the mystery element, but then it has like the quirk and the fashion. Coup pertino is more like slick lawyer, you know, little generative AI, good storytelling. I think I'm taking on that AI slot. hope so. Oh, good. LET'S WATCH THIS [clears throat] CLIP. YOU'RE GOING to love it. Yeah, let's get into the clip. I need help. I could use literally anyone right now. Where is everyone? Hello? Here. What's wrong? What do you need? They're out to get me, and I need someone right now. I need a lawyer. Who is out to get you? That looks slick. Yeah. That's the question.
That's a perfect clip. Yes, right? Cuz you just said, who? It leaves you wanting more. It's a niche we can serve. The unrepresented. The Davids. Let's rent this place. And that was Mike Colter from Evil, Yes. who I love, and Ella Stiller of the Stiller dynasty. Oh, okay. Let's be dynasty. The dynasty. That's what it is. Dynasty. Thank you for that clip. I might have to put that on the list.
Yeah, I think so. Wait a second. Britney, I didn't ask you. Do you have a star of stage and screen that you want to see guest star on an episode of Elsbeth? Ooh. You can manifest it today. This is good. I definitely have one. COOL. AUDRA MCDONALD. OH, YES. And I have to be in said episodes. She's singing just a little, but doing something. yeah, yeah. Not a full sing, but just a little hum, and you go, I got what I needed.
Yes. Did you see her dance and sing along? Let's hear her dance, too. She don't not get the credit for the dancing that she can do. Actually When I first moved to New York City, my agent I was assigned with theatrical agent, they said, Jane, on a scale of 1 to 10, where would you put your tap skills? I say, are there negative numbers? I once was in a show, and I saw this woman had um microphones on her tap shoes. We all had to have this tap number, and I said, I don't have a mic on my tap shoes. AND THEN I SAID, WAIT, I DON'T HAVE TAPS ON MY TAP SHOES.
UH-OH. And then they hid me behind A CHAISE LOUNGE. WAIT, HOLD ON. SO I JUST WENT LIKE THIS. WERE THIS WAS jazz. Yeah. This was jazz. Yep. Just all arms. Except for your moving your feet more than I do. While I might not be a great tap dancer, I can murder with the best of them. So we're having too much fun. I need to pick a TV show. You know what? I've given it some thought and lots of contemplation. I think I'm going to have to start watching ELSEBETH RELIGIOUSLY. AH! I'M GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT I keep solving murders with her in New York City. I see him Broadway stars.
Yeah, you're going to love it. You want to get out of here and walk around a little bit? Let's do it. Walk around New York City. Yeah, let's walk around New York City. I love your place. I love this microphone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just got that. It's a little square, but it's it's fabulous.
