What surprised you this week? What surprised me most was the beating they gave the Patriots. But does that surprise you? No, it definitely surprised me. I thought you guys could win? Yes. I thought they'd come out and completely embarrass themselves, with four turnovers from Drake May and looking so inept as a team? No, I wasn't expecting that. And you? I'm not going to lie, it doesn't surprise me. Seeing the preparation of the people, the time the guys dedicate to it, and when you have Jordan Love, anything can happen.
Yes, did you learn anything about the team? After that game, what do we know about the Packers that we didn't know before? I think we're much tougher now, we're correcting our mistakes and we stopped hurting each other so much in this game. We started to look like a much cleaner team. It's November, baby. It's wintertime. Did you learn anything about Drake May? I think Drake May lost confidence. Yes, I saw Vrabel talking about how, after his first interception, he was fearful for the rest of the game.
Yes, he didn't like that, it's the difficult part that I think everyone struggles with, right? I've seen it in Dak, you know, I think in my second or third year you see it in the young quarterbacks. When mistakes and victories don't come early, they lose that confidence and faith in others. Do you know what I mean? I don't see him trusting people like he did last year. He doesn't look like the same quarterback he was You know, he went from being a potential MVP to being in serious trouble. And I think it all has to do with his confidence. Like last year, you'd see him coming out of the pocket, spotting blitzes, moving to the right, throwing precise passes, making spectacular catches, but they looked much more united
last year on their way to the Super Bowl than they look now. Yes, I think when you see quarterbacks playing with timing and rhythm, throwing the ball, completing progressions, and throwing on time, it tells you that they trust the receiver to be where he needs to be when they need him to be. But he just looked afraid to throw the ball at all times. And I think that got out of control. You saw X's first interception. Mhm. And literally after that, it seemed like he wasn't ready to throw the ball or didn't want to be aggressive. And yes. You ca n't be successful on offense if you 're not aggressive in pushing the ball downfield.
What surprised me was their inability to play from behind, to play when they were down on the scoreboard, Mhm. TRUE? When you're down, any quarterback can play well if he's winning. Like when you're in the game, maybe 7-7, 14-7. When they were down by 17, they looked like a completely different football team. As if all the fighting spirit had left the stadium. It made a big difference to see them down by 17 points against the Buccaneers in that same situation. Baker didn't play great, but he still kept up the pace, tried to be aggressive, and did those things. It was simply seeing them and noticing how disjointed they looked as they lost. It was, it was, it was an unpleasant job. And keep in mind that we've also had
great coverage this year. Speaking of great coverage, you have two cornerbacks, well, two deep ones. You have Evan Williams, who was named NFC Defensive Player of the Month. He had an interception. X had two. What do you think of their group of deep thinkers right now Like I told you at the beginning of the year, we had the best duo of safeties in the league. You said that and I didn't believe it. Wow. What, what, what made you not believe it? No. The thing is, Evan isn't such a well- known name to me. TRUE? I simply hadn't seen him play that much I feel like Evan was really the backbone of the
defense last year. I'm not saying I'm taking anything away from X, but last year E-Man was so consistent, so focused in every phase, both the ground game and the air game. He made important plays, but I think you 're seeing more of that this year. I think last year it went from "oh, damn, I'm a top-level player" to this year saying "I am a top- level player". It's like that change in confidence, yes, because he's anticipating the plays, he has confidence in the system. He's coming down for the ground game. It's doing everything in our system. I just think his confidence shifted to: " Oh, now I can be a great player." He's seeing it, and now it's constant. That confidence, I think people don't realize how important it is on
Sundays when you're playing. Confidence is the number one trait for quarterbacks. People think it's your ability to throw, advance the ball, be athletic. No, it's about having confidence. I think it's not just confidence as a quarterback, cornerback, wide receiver, I think it's in many positions where you need confidence, right? I feel that in the seven front positions there isn't as much confidence. It's more like you need to have grit. You need to be able to crash and let go, but you definitely need a lot more confidence in most key positions. And speaking of confidence, you had two
receivers whose confidence I could see was a little shaky early in the season. Yes. They dealt with some loose passes, things like that. But they went out onto the field and applied pressure. Christian Watson, seven receptions, 170 yards, one touchdown. Matthew Golden, 10 receptions, 184 yards. They are the first two receivers in history with more than 150 yards and a touchdown each. Mhm. What do you see when you look at these two boys Man, I see they're electric. And it's a shame because C.W. He was recovering from an injury.
M.G. He was a rookie last year, he had problems, a couple of injuries. But now we are seeing the future of what these two can become. And I think that's the most exciting part offensively, and they care about each other's success. And I think it's a little different because I think, you know, last year you were trying to outline a lot of things. I want to outline so that Cee Dee can get receptions. I want to see a scheme for Romeo Dobbs to get catches. Um, I want a scheme for Wicks to get catches. Tucker Kraft got injured, so you know, I was designing plays for him to catch balls.
I think Jay Love has reached the point where he says, and obviously Jaden Reed, J. Reed, got injured this year. But I think you mean it like, "I don't need to outline for anyone, they 're my two boys." And obviously we still have Tuck, but I think what happened, which is even better for them, was that not being able to run the ball anymore elevated everything that's happening now, right? We're having trouble moving the ball, so guess what? We have to launch it by air. I think Jordan Love has not only gained confidence, but he allowed his early mistakes to build that confidence and say, 'I'm good and I'm going to make my plays because Jay Love
is just giving me the ball.' It does n't matter, if you let go or whatever, I'm still going to give you the ball. Like, stay there. How to keep your mind focused. And I think it's very important that they were able to go through that from the beginning because now we're seeing the success later on. And they're just two great guys on the team. I'm talking about when you're at camp, at practice, and you witness it, honestly, brother, MG is a person who, if I see him release the ball, I'm really surprised. Oh really? In practice and at camp, you never see him drop a ball, never. So when Sunday comes and you're like, damn, MG dropped it, what the hell? It's like. you're surprised and you say, wait, what's going on here? If
you know what I mean? And that's why I think that even in this press conference he was saying: I know I'll catch the next one because that's how he prepares. I see them at the ticket machine. I see them working in rotating receptions. All those things you see on Sunday when everything finally falls into place, they've already been there. It's just that now he's finally reaping the benefits of all the work he's been doing. That, to me, is earned trust. He does the work to maintain trust even though the results aren't always there. Absolutely. But what makes those two so dangerous? You talk about his work ethic and all that stuff. But what about his skill set that puts so much pressure on him? Because yesterday
they put Christian Gonzalez through a real ordeal. I think what people underestimate is the speed at which they run. I think when you look at the duos across the league, right? CD reminds me of someone with great yardage capacity after the reception. You give him the ball seven or eight yards out. He's going to make a move. I'm not saying it isn't a profound threat, Mhm. but it's more about catching the ball in the middle. And then like a runner after receiving it.
It's a corridor after reception. He has an incredible ability to gain yards after receiving a catch. That goes back to his college videos. His yardage capacity after the catch is absurd. But then you see GP, he's more into slant routes, go, even a deep dig route once in a while. Those are his explosive receptions. Well, if you look at people like Jamar and T. Both of them, and I think, you know, you could put CY and MG there with Jamar and T because they can run any route. These are profound threats. They have incredible speed. I think that's what you
should be worried about with these two, yes, they can make return routes, routes out, all that, but you have to respect their speed on the deep pass. You can't just stay and wait for them. No. And I think a lot of cornerbacks are very used to saying, oh, that speed doesn't intimidate me. I can wait a little while. You can't just wait at a speed of 4.3. And it showed, because Jordan Love was able to take the ball to the end of the field with five throws of more than 20 yards yesterday. But when we talked about those guys, you mentioned Jamar and T, Mhm. Where would you classify them as duos? Do you understand what I mean?
We have Jamar and T. Higgins, we have Puka and Devonte, Amon-Ra and Jameson, George Pickens, CD, and let's not forget Justin Jefferson and Addison from the Vikings. Yes, I want to be honest with you, I would definitely put us in the top three. I would put Jamar and T. at number one. Mhm. I would put Devonte and Puka in the number two spot. And I base this solely on that because I hate disrespecting people's careers. You understand me? Devonte, Devonte Adams is a member of the Hall of Fame. He's just been doing it. He
has done it very consistently. And you know, he knows how this works. I think we're finally seeing a healthy Christian Watson, a healthy Matthew Golden, and a healthy Jordan Love, and we're entering that golden age where Devonte started to shine, right? Devonte himself told me: "In my early years I was still trying to understand it." And then, he simply clicked. You understand me? So I think that's what we're seeing from Christian Watson and Matthew Golden. Obviously we had a Hall of Fame quarterback in Aaron Rodgers. And I think Jordan Love is on that path to the Hall of Fame right now, becoming one of the Packers' greatest quarterbacks.
We're talking about Jordan Love, we're talking about the Hall of Fame. What we saw yesterday was truly impressive. He had six completed passes of more than 20 yards through the air. It has only happened twice this season. They are both Jordan Love. Week five against the Bears, a great defense, and then week nine against the Patriots, another great defense. Should he be considered for this MVP? Absolutely. I think everything Jay Love has faced and the numbers he's put up show what a great quarterback he is. And I knew it since training camp. I'm watching it. I'm just saying, heavens.
It's crazy. When we see the footage, we say, "Look at that pass," we just say, "That's Jay Love." There's nothing you can do. Your trust. Uh, you know, no, I don't know, you know, where his confidence comes from. Maybe he learned from A-Rod, but it was his confidence and conviction that he could make every pitch. And it's so funny because everyone says we know when he takes the step and it looks like a jump shot, you know something good is going to happen. That's really true. I can't even think of another player who has such a signature move.
His jump pass, that deep ball, reminds me of AI's crossover. You know it's worth two points. We accept it. Consider it good. As soon as I saw it, I knew it was good. That's what he reminds me of. He had that play yesterday, the gem on the right side. Because there are times when I write to Jordan during the season, hey, take care of your base, take care of this, take care of that. Then you see something like this and you think you shouldn't write anything to him about fundamentals. Just do your thing. You know, brother, I think it's one of those things where you see a great player and they're so talented at what they do. You ca n't train that. And I think a lot of
people take credit for things that you can't train the mechanics of. You can't train how they throw. Like LeBron James, the best, you know, one of the best ever, you can't train someone to be like LeBron His size, his speed, everything he plays with. I don't care who trained them. Do you know what I mean? They probably kept them healthy, but that could also be genetics. It could be genetic, but you can't train that skill. I think he's one of those rare people who can make a great pitch from any position. We're talking about greatness, that's fine Where does Jordan rank among the league's best quarterbacks?
We have Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Brock Purdy, Trevor Lawrence. Where do you think he is located right now You know, it's very difficult to say. I would definitely say that it's at least among the top four. It's among the top four right now Uh, you know, it's really hard to say who's who, but I know when I think of quarterbacks, right? And I think that we are winning games. We would n't win a single game without Jordan Love. In other words, he has been the best player on the field in every match. Each match. To me, that's MVP level.
Yes, that to me is MVP; Even some of the defeats we had were not his fault. 100%. Do you know what I mean? He has been the best player in every game. And it shows that, if you protect it, it can be as good as anyone. Uh, and obviously we're also playing great defense, but with our ability, without having one of the most elite ground games like other teams have had You know, without having, you know, we've had some failed receptions, we've had many failed receptions this year. And honestly, our offensive line, with the injuries and things that happened at the beginning, the adjustment, that can't be an excuse. We can't say we can't be better on the offensive line, because my brother is going through that.
He's been through it; he's one of the most hit quarterbacks in the league. So, that's why I say the things Jordan Love is doing and what he's achieving with everything against him. Hey man, it's like night and day. That's why, for me, he's definitely among the top four, three, or maybe even the top two, depending on how you base your quarterback category on what you're looking for. This is going to sound crazy, but for me he's number one. And the reason I say that is because he pushes the ball downfield. It attacks deep. You stretch yourself with every play. He doesn't do it with his legs. Just throw the ball hard. Now, Josh
Allen does things with his legs that Jordan simply can't do. Josh, my brother, had a rushing touchdown yesterday. He had a rushing touchdown, but let's leave it at that. That's not my brother. In other words, he's not trying to run away from anyone. Josh Allen simply pressures you in that way, but when it comes to throwing the ball deep into the field, being accurate and stretching the defense, he's number one. And that's why I like him, you know, I'm not trying to put pressure on Jay or anyone else in the league, but that's why I say, depending on what you're looking for, for me he's number one, but if you mean top four, I accept top four. In other words, we can discuss it. So, what are you looking for?
And besides, the teams we play against are legitimate teams. For example, Joe Burrow is a fire quarterback to me. But I don't think there's anyone in the NFC North you can play against, throw three interceptions, and still win the game. Yes. I mean, it's simply not where we live. And I mean, you could say that about last night's Bucs and Bears, but they're three- and five-man teams for a reason. Hello. In other words, you can't, you're not doing the little things right. So, what will this MVP race come down to? Uh, honestly I think it'll be between Jordan Love, Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen. Do you know what I really want to see? I just
want to see the Houston Texans go on a good run so CJ can get into the mix. Mhm. Because he's also playing like one of the top four quarterbacks. CJ is in my top five. Yes, definitely. Do you know what I mean? And I don't think all the losses are his fault, but you don't win any of those games without CJ either. TRUE. To be honest, it should have been the Buffalo Bills. Mhm.