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Hello, it's Adam on the newscast stage in Edinburgh. It's Katrina on the newscast stage in Edinburgh. And it's James also here in Edinburgh. And we're joined by some very enthusiastic newscasters who come to see us. HELLO. RIGHT. Um Katrina, my eye was caught by this quite amazing bit of reporting in the American media about Donald Trump's extreme plane swapping. Yeah, this is an extraordinary story. It was an exclusive by the Washington Post, but it's since been stood up by many other outlets as well. Basically, when President Trump was at the NATO summit in Turkey a few weeks ago, he had flown
there on the new jet given to him by the Qatari government. It was the first foreign trip much kind of rasmataz about it and the reclining leather seats and all of this. Um anyway, get to Anchora and suddenly there's an issue and he can't fly home in the plane. So every time the president goes somewhere, they actually bring a backup plane as well. So in this case, it's what's called a legacy Air Force One, an old one basically. So he couldn't fly back on the new one, so he got on the old one, walked up the steps, waved at everyone, um was on the plane, and um we were told at the time that there was potentially um a threat to his life from the Iranians. So the plane was going to go
to uh base here in the UK and they would change planes and fly back to Washington from there. Now we found through this reporting today that the president walked up the steps, got on the legacy Air Force One and then was basically bundled off it. A catering truck drove up to one of the other exits um you know where they bring like a commercial flight they bring in the food trolley and whatever and he was kind of bundled into the catering truck. then across the tarmac to a military plane out of the catering truck into this military plane. Meanwhile, the entire White House press pool were still on the legacy Air Force One unaware as which any bad guys would think Donald Trump was on.
Yeah. because he walked up and waved and you know he actually uh he was asked about this threat by the reporters there and he sort of said oh you know we're on a safe plane and uh words to the effect of if I go we all go kind of thing which you know um is one of the risks comforting though yeah you know it's a dangerous game um and so there were the journalists were all on there as were many White House staffers on this plane that then took off from Anchora and flew to the base here in the UK And uh meanwhile this military jet was also flying and actually managed to get here before the legacy air force one. Now we don't know it's unclear there's no um reporting yet on you know was he put back on the
legacy air force one or kind of how all that happened because he was supposed to get off the plane and change planes anyway in England. though. Um, but it's raised all kinds of issues now because the main reason for the press pool traveling with the president is to be able to report on whatever happens to him while he's traveling. It's not for a nice jolly on reclining leather seats and staying in nice hotels with the president. Yeah, there's I've noticed there's a big transparency thing around the president's movements that we don't have with the prime minister in the UK, for example. It's just sort of part of the culture that the people and reporters know where he is.
Yeah. And it's it's supposed to be if a president has a heart attack or, you know, an assassination or whatever, obviously touchwood none of this happens that the reporters are there to report on it. And if you look back at what happened on 911 and President Bush, you know, had to take off in a hurry and was flying around and coming up and down at different bases uh for many hours. a tiny fraction of the press pool. Five people were picked to travel with President Bush and it's kind of referred to as the nuclear bunker pack. So, it's a really tiny version of all of the journalists so that you can fly around, you can, you know, history happens in real time and journalists have to be
there to document what is happening. They call it the protective pool, don't they, in US media speak terms. And the 9/11 is there's an amazing story online about that whole day about the story of Air Force One that day, but they landed I forget where in the middle of nowhere somewhere um on that day in Nebraska. Yeah, it was in Nebraska, Adam. Thank you. And they I knew it was in the plains somewhere and they chucked off all the other journalists apart from this nuclear bunker pool. And there's apparently a massive fight because of course they're losing their chance to witness history in the biggest story that they probably almost certainly ever cover in their lifetime. But also they
thought they had a right to be there for their outlets and the chief of staff um to the white to the president was saying no you are off. But they even on even then even on that day they retained a small number of people to travel with the president. So that's one question is from a journalistic perspective you know witnessing history following the president. But for me, the more fundamental question you both alluded to, which is, well, if this plane is not safe to fly with Donald Trump because there's a credible threat of a missile hitting it, I mean, it's quite the call to send it anyway with a load of never mind journalists, but journalists. Yes. And staff and the pilots.
I It's quite an amazing thing to suggest without their knowledge. I but then equally going very public about a very scary sounding threat to the president in real time would be bad too presumably. Yeah. I mean they would argue and we haven't had official White House comment on this but I can kind of guess that they would argue that the safety and security of the president of the United States is paramount to anything. And if they decide that what they have to do is set that plane of flight anyway, that they would calculate, you know, the people who make these sorts of safety decisions that this is a sort of, you know, collateral damage to absorb like quite the bargain.
I mean, these are the cults that they make all of the time. you know, the attempts on President Trump's life in the past, their entire motivation is about securing the president and whatever happens to people around them is sort of not I mean it sounds terribly cold, but it's not their objective. Their objective is sec to secure the president of the United States. And do we know anything about this potential threat? No. And that's the other point, right? It's like we're told this was a very serious credible threat from the Iranians on the life and the plane. And I mean, if you imagine if the threat was to sort of send a missile into the sky while Air Force One is flying
somewhere, you know, over a city, over what? Who knows? I mean, like your brain just goes to all kinds of places thinking about that. And we haven't and maybe we'll hear from the White House later. It's obviously still quite early morning on the East Coast US as we're recording now. But I mean there will need to be more information as to just what was this threat? How credible was it? And why is there nothing more about it? We're recording at 3 p.m. UK time. So presumably this story is just because it's got a lot of ingredients that the American press pack will be leaping onto.
Absolutely. Right. Um sorry James reminisce about being on Air Force One. No I wasn't I was I've not been on Air Force One. I've been White House traveling press pool once to go to the NATO summit and to checkers but not on Air Force One. The um No. Well, all I was going to say is the temptation in this story as a journalist is to focus on that because it is an unbelievable image to think that the president of the United States is in that catering truck being smuggled away. But actually, the more you think about it and the more questions that we've all been asking here that come up, actually it's far more serious and I think that I think there'll be a lot of fallout from this, won't there? I think
also talking about him being bundled into the truck, it just reminds me of the fact that Taylor Swift arrives at her gigs in like a cleaning cart, doesn't she? So that people can't see her. So that's an idea for tomorrow's newscast live from there. You imagine me being wheeled on in a bin. You won't have to. Imagine if you come back tomorrow. Yes. Um then Katrina, carrying on in the Trump theme. So um when I was in Washington uh at the start of July on holiday, I was amazed at what a building site is. So, I knew there was lots of building work going on, but actually
when you then see it with your own eyes, you're like, "Oh, wow. This actually quite beautiful city is a giant building site. And the biggest building site of them all is right next to the White House." And it's the new ballroom in the east wing. So, like not the West Wing that we know from TV, but the other side of the building. And there's that's been controversial since the start, but it seems like it's become even more controversial now. Yeah. And it's not just the big sort of hole in the ground where this, you know, we call it a ballroom, but actually it's much more than that. There's going to be a hospital, a whole kind of military complex there, a um a drone port as the
president has described it. Um that will protect not only the White House, but the whole of Washington DC apparently. And it's all h the building itself will be drone proof and bomb proof. He's given many tours of the site actually because you know he cares very deeply about uh property development and so on as we know um but it also um had is involving now part of the rest of the building. You probably wouldn't have seen this from the angle that you were at Adam but there now is a kind of drape hung over the front of the building as well with the picture of the colonade pillars kind of the main entrance of the White House. So it's quite hard to make out, but we don't know what's going on
behind that curtain either. Uh so I think there's more sort of serious works at play there, but there have been a lot of people um objecting to this as you can imagine. Not as many as probably I think would object to it if it happened in this part of the world. Uh you know, it's our planning system for you. Yeah. you know, I mean, actually, if you're trying to put an extension on your house, it would be more difficult than what um the president's had to deal with. But nevertheless, there have been objections. And the most recent sort of thing in the legal process is that an appeals court has upheld a decision um from a lower planning commission. basically a case taken by a lady who
says that she walks through the park in front of the east wing and you know this new uh building is going to block her view or impact her enjoyment of that. So this is the case that's been taken. The courts have said actually Congress are the ones that need to give the planning permission essentially for this and they haven't done that. So has put a halt on the development. The president said he's going to appeal this to the Supreme Court. Did you say that was on Friday, the latest development is quite recent. So, and he's going to appeal it to the Supreme Court. So, that's going to have to be the next term, which will be in the autumn. But, uh, potentially what
the Supreme Court can do is say that this lady does not have the jurisdiction to take the course to take the legal action that she's taking, which then would basically be a workaround on it. They're not going to rule on the legality of the development or send it back to Congress. It's interesting, isn't it, that this ballroom has become, you know, so closely associated with Donald Trump because it's his idea. But it's but one element of the attempt, some would say, to remake Washington or even remake the United States in his image or at least with his image as a central feature of the country, tying him as the leader of the nation to the concept of the nation itself, which we saw so much at the
250th anniversary celebrations of the founding of the United States of America as well. What is it like walking around Washington at the moment with I mean is he a dominant figure in terms of the imagery as well is what I wonder because I've not been for a while like Adam. Well you have the building site at the White House. You also have the reflecting pool along the mall. Um and that's a whole other controversy let's say. Uh then you have the plans to build the lark to Trump um the Trump arch which is just beyond the uh Lincoln Memorial if people have been to DC just it's actually technically in Virginia but it's still what he would call Washington DC. Um and then you have a lot of posters hanging off all the
government department buildings um that are either images of him or some of the slogans. You know, the Department of Health now has make America healthy again. Sort of big these are huge buildings and they have big banners hanging off them. So, you know, there isn't a sort of flashing neon Trump sign on top of any buildings, but not yet. Yeah. But definitely his fingerprints are all over the city. But I mean in a way there's nothing stopping him doing that you know um we just haven't seen it with recent presidents but if you go way back in history like this is what people did. They built um big buildings or you know civic legacy projects. It's just that we're not used to seeing it kind of in modern times or on this scale either.
A kind of version of it that I saw when I was there on my trip was I went to the state fair on the National Mall which was the big kind of showcase for all the states for the decisent centennial whatever the 250th was technically called. Um hopefully my old Latin teacher is not here um to call me out on that. Um and the first thing you saw when you went in there was the America Innovates pavilion and I thought oh this would be all America's hottest companies and their new inventions. and you walked in to this tent which was not very full and one of the first companies you saw as an example of true American innovation and the white heat of technology in 2026 was Truth Social.
Yeah. Uh and there was basically just a desk of people who worked at Truth Social and then you turned around and there was X uh Elon Musk's company. So you're like all right this is very political this tent. There was no kind of Apple, no Microsoft. It was a very narrow sliver of American innovation. So, I thought that was interesting. And the other thing about DC that really amazed me is it was so hot that day and they had to cancel quite a lot of the events around the 4th of July because it was too hot, which kind of puts our heat wave in perspective. But I went for very early sightseeing at like six o'clock in the morning because that's what everyone advised me to do. And I walked past the
State Department, which is in a neighborhood called Foggy Bottom. And as you walked past the entrance of the State Department, they had outdoor air conditioning. So, you were walking along the sidewalk and you're like, "Oh, it's really hot. It's really hot." Then you got past the to the entrance of the State Department and it was lovely and cool outside. So, that's American innovation. Uh maybe we'll be doing that in future years if our heat waves get worse. Um Katrina, just thinking about the ballroom, one of the arguments that Donald Trump makes about why he needs to build this big complex is for the increased threat of threats to his security and future presidents. And one
of the examples he gives is the White House correspondents dinner where there was are we calling it an assassination attempt that event. Yeah. At the moment. Yeah. I mean you know the individual has been in court with a few charges and more serious charges will be um brought against him is what we're hearing from the legal authorities at the moment. But I mean that's what the president calls it. That's what you know many law enforcement personnel call it because it was an individual who had traveled across the country with firearms, checked into the hotel in advance and had rushed through the security cordon and fired his weapon adjacent to where
the president was speaking. So, and you were actually there. You were reminding me last night. Yeah. Yeah, I was there. Um because obviously I report on the White House and I'm a member of the White House Correspondents Association. So myself and many other BBC colleagues were there as we go every year and you know it's a nice uh celebration of journalism. We all get to pat ourselves on the back for a job well done or otherwise depending on your point of view. Um and uh yeah so we had just sat down in the ballroom and I had eaten my starter because I was starving. Um, and it was one of these things where the starters are on the tables, but a lot of people didn't. But, um, myself and Tom Baitman
actually, who I was sitting beside, we started eating arts and a few others. Luckily, we did because, uh, that was the end of the food for tonight. It turned into a very long night after that. Um, but yeah, where was the catering truck then? Where was the catering truck? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there were funny images caught on the pool cameras, the total aside, of people going back to eat their food after it was all over. Taking those tickets aren't cheap.
Taking the bottles of wine off the table that you've already paid for. Um, but yeah, it was just literally at the beginning of the thing. Um, when we heard these shots turned out to be shots at the time, we were kind of saying to ourselves, were they was that gunfire? Sort of feels like it was gunfire. Definitely not in the room. You could hear that it was muffled. Um, and then suddenly just a giant kurfuffle of agents rushing in, screaming, "Get down, get down." You could hear glasses and crockery being knocked over and tables and chairs being knocked over. Um, as people scrambled to get under the table.
Um, I didn't go under the table. I got adjacent to the table and put my phone up to film what was going on. I mean, we have a table here if you wanted to reenact how that looks. I must say that I really do like the understated Irish way in which you have described this incredibly frightening and dramatic moment in history as a kuruffle. Maybe I'm um old and cynical in my later years here, but uh it feels different now in retrospect, doesn't it, than it did at the exact moment, I suppose. I you know I think honestly because um you know what we all do you're in scenarios that aren't normal and you're trained for them like we all do hostile environment training and you become kind of accustomed to
these scenarios and unfortunately reporting on Donald Trump now um in recent years these are nonisolated incidents you know so you kind of do almost not become accustomed to it that sounds terrible but you're ready for it like your muscle memory is there. Um, now that's not to say that it wasn't scary and terrifying and I know a lot of people have been quite traumatized by what happened. Um, um, but I think because I didn't go under the table, so I could see what was happening. So I knew that there weren't gunmen in the room. Um, whereas I think if you had been deprived of that sense and you were under the tablecloth in silence, you know, you're kind of on edge waiting, is someone going to lift up the tablecloth?
Um, and I could see everyone being removed and that there were agents there securing this situation. I think it's like interesting that you say that you're sort of ready for it. You sort of almost expect it because my experience of living in the States was that it's just a very different level of underlying base threat and concern about violence about specifically gun violence. Now, I have a distorted, you know, perspective on that because I think I covered 15 mass shootings in getting on for three or four years, which is pretty sobering and horrendous, obviously. But I mean at one point we left the office in Los Angeles to go to the shootings in San Bernardino in California where a
husband and wife um Islamic extremists had carried out a what was later described as a terrorist attack although wasn't immediately clear what was going on. and we took body armor with us and we said we are driving through California in an in the United States of America to a news story carrying the body armor that we really have in case we need to go into Mexico to some of the places in Mexico or we're deployed to the Middle East and I think you know just to bring this round in a circle you're talking about specific political violence but there's this underlying layer of violence in the United States supported by the statistics that it is marketkedly different from other western societies that you sort of become accustomed to in a chilling way.
you do and I've reported on those mass shootings as well and um you see people at the rawest stage of their grief and yet they will still say to you which I've always found astonishing um but no we should have the right to bear arms and we should have the right to purchase you know assault grade weaponry and so on and I think particularly from us and this is where you know being foreign correspondents actually gives you a sort of a bit of an edge in a way over Americans who've grown up in this in that we come from countries where that's not normal like that everyone's going around carrying weapons like that and it's always astonishing to me that even in that point of grief and devastation
um like I was at the Las Vegas shooting where there were hundreds of people killed the Pulse nightclub shooting as well um and people still say no this is our right and I still want to see my fellow Americans carrying weapons. Yeah, I remember that at Las Vegas as well, like really vividly talking to somebody who'd lost her uncle, saying, "Oh, he would be outraged if we were to give up our guns." I mean, it's just a different place. Sorry, Adam. I've taken this down a different a different track. No, it was very interesting. I also just got a push alert from the BBC News website saying that the Met Office is saying that this summer is on course to be the hottest ever in the UK.
Um, by which you mean in England? Well, yes. Yes, market regional and national differences in the weather, I have to say. Um, and I'm actually very pleased that I'm going to be missing the hottest bit of the heat wave in London this week because it's not going to be a heat wave here. Um, right, Katrina, there's an ongoing joke on newscast about how the midterms are just around the corner. It's a really, really big corner. We've been going around for several months now. Um, where large spaghetti junction. Yeah. Where Let's just keep it going, though. So, um, where should we focus our attention on for our turning the corner midterms coverage?
Yeah, there's a couple of things that have been interesting and um, also just before we dive into it, we should just say the midterms is so that the whole of the House of Representatives, the lower house is up for election and a third of the Senate. Exactly. Because I sometimes realize I'm guilty of saying the midterms and like the primaries and the caucuses and it's assuming everyone's studied American politics. So, I mean, in why it's important is, you know, the Republicans control both houses at the moment. The Democrats want to take back control of the houses, which would give them some power, not complete power because obviously there's still a Republican in the White House. Um, but it's the couple
of interesting trends that we've seen is Donald Trump is doing very bad in the sort of approval polls personally, which is not that unusual for a president at this point of their term, but they're very low. However, all of the candidates that he's backing in the primary season and a primary is also an interesting thing because it's when you're facing off against someone from your own party to pick the candidate who will then go forward and face a Democrat. And in some states, it's kind of whoever wins the primary is going to win because one or other party just isn't big in that state. So, that's why we focus so much on the primaries. But Donald Trump bad personal approval rating, but the candidates that he's
backing by and large are the ones that are coming through the Republican side, which is really interesting in terms of where he is still as the leader of his party, even if some people are starting to criticize some of his policies. And then on the Democratic side of things, another really interesting trend line is kind of the civil war that's going on in that party that has been for some time But now they're starting to sort of have electoral success in terms of the what are called the democratic socialists uh or you know would be called far-left leaning liberals um by certain people although by the measure of this country they're probably a lot of them not that far left at all.
No I mean some of them are way more left than our left. Yeah it's a mixture isn't it? That's fair. It's a real mixture, but they're they're up for things like universal health care, like which is the NHS, you know, um taking big money out of politics, which is not something either that we have on our side of the pond. Um so yeah, that's like a really good point to make. And on the Democrat side, tell me about why Michigan was so interesting last week and the fact that this guy Abdul Elsad won the Democratic nomination to for the Senate race in Michigan. Yeah, so this caused a lot of waves. So he's a 41-year-old born in Michigan to Egyptian immigrant parents. He's an epidemiologist, buff, good-looking guy, was h captain of
the high school football team, high school wrestling team, high school lacrosse team. Um actually studied for a time in the University of Oxford as part of his doctoral studies. Um and was on the lacrosse team there as well. Um, so you know, if you're if you've got a list of everything that uh they like in American politicians, he kind of ticks off a load of those boxes. Um, apart from if you're President Trump, the fact that his name is the kind of name that President Trump doesn't often like. Um, but you know, he's doing so well in Michigan that the polls had him winning um the primary against a sitting congresswoman really by a huge margin. But that didn't happen. So there's a few questions about
how well the Democrats are polling their own supporters. Um and he basically he still won. Well, they might be misunderstanding their own voters. Miss Yeah. So he won by basically less than 1%. It was almost a 50/50 split by somebody who had the backing of all of the Washington sort of Democratic leadership who was the incumbent who had a track record versus this new guy. and she spent vastly more money. Yeah. Huge money, including 30 million from Apac, which are the sort of pro-Israel lobby. Um, so it's there's just an awful lot of soularching going on now within the Democratic party in terms of like what do their voters want?
You know, he is for universal healthcare, as I said, taking big money out of um politics, putting money back in your pockets, which is kind of what every politician says, don't they? Um but you know it's whether the Democrats should be going more to what they would see as a left agenda versus the sort of moderate position that the leadership the traditional position is. And is there any other races in the kind of imminent that we should look at that will be quite revealing? So there's actually a few primaries going on today tonight as it will be here. One is in South Carolina which is the sister of the late Senator Lindsey Graham. This is on the Republican side of things who President Trump has
endorsed, Darlene Graeme, uh, who's a newcomer to politics. She's been basically she's taking taken over her brother's seat until the election, but that's a really crowded primary, so that's going to be really interesting on the Republicans side of things. Um, and then we have Wisconsin tonight as well. There is a governatorial race there who which um again there's a democratic socialist running for governor against a traditional sorry democratic socialist running for governor against a traditional democrat but this time she has not been backed by Bernie Sanders and AOC and all of the kind of very high-profile Doran Mandani all of the very high-profile socialists. So it's you know there's a lot to watch. So what
what be interested to hear your take on this because it strikes me that what's going on here is a battle for what the Democratic Party is, what it's for, what it wants to be, what it wants the nation to look like, but also at the same time probably, although we're maybe not hearing about it yet quite so much. Correct me if I'm wrong. A similar battle perhaps quietly in the Republican party. Is the Republican party now and for the foreseeable future the MAGA party, the Make America Great Again party after Trump, will it retain his stamp? Will it continue in his vein? Because I suppose if you're a Democrat and you're and you think the party should move to the left and lots of people are saying, "No, no, no. You don't win general elections that way.
You need to get into the center ground. You need to be moderate." They might say, "Well, look at that guy in the White House. I mean, it's worked for them moving to a different political position further out, embracing and encouraging their core support." You can have a debate all day long about the syphology of that and whether actually the victories are more narrow than they seem, particularly the first one. But is it true that there is now a real serious battle of ideas within the Democratic Party as to what they should be and what America should be? And to what extent, if that's true, is that replicated on the Republican side? That's what I wonder.
Yeah, I think there is. In short, um I think that every party who, you know, they go through cycles like this. I mean, I remember, I'm sure you do as well, after the 2016 election when Donald Trump built beat Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders had this large cohort, this big following, and then there was a whole soularching thing of well, should we actually have gone with the Bernie Sanders? 13 million votes I think in the primaries for Sanders. Yeah. Massive, you know, and he didn't actually endorse Hillary Clinton until a few weeks before the actual general election. Um, you know, and there was all the soulsearching in the Democrats then and they kind of moved away from it a bit and then they became
the party of, well, we're not Donald Trump, which worked for Joe Biden, worked for the midterm elections during Biden's administration and then they lost it again in 2024. So they're they're they're really trying to kind of bring these factions of their party together. And you know, so many voters are telling pollsters that they view now Republicans and Democrats as all the same. Nobody understands me. None of those guys up in Washington get what it's like to be me. And that's a real problem for the Democrats. you know, they can have all these lofty ideas, but if people think you don't actually understand the daily grind, you don't understand the struggle of working 40 hours a week and still not being able to put good food on your table.
And just really quickly, because I mean, I introduced this concept almost of putting it up as left and right. I mean, without using those words, but this is sort of the implication, but I suppose that's not necessarily a very useful way to view politics as we've talked about in newscast and newscasters. You will all have heard us talk about that. You'll have talked about it yourself, I'm sure, but the example I give, and I have probably talked about this on newscast before, is in the 2016 campaign, I vividly remember talking to a taxi driver in Los Angeles who said to me, um, I said, "Who you for?" He said, "Oh, Sanders, I love Sanders. Fresh, change, different, alternative. Don't trust any of those politicians." I said, "Listen, my
friend, Sanders ain't going to be your candidate. It's going to be Hillary Clinton. What's she going to do now?" Well, you know, then will you vote for her? Oh, no. I'll vote for Trump and you thought and I thought oh well that seems m and then it's not because it's just it's the same thing in a different way. It's it's an expression of discontent, unhappiness, dissatisfaction with the established political system. And so they argue that's what we're going to see playing out in the midterms as to where you land on that and who can channel that energy most effectively. And there's a really interesting race happening in Texas for the Senate there between James Talerico who's a new upand cominging not fully democratic
socialist but kind of a slightly more into the you know he used to be a seminarian he's got a lot of interesting things going for him and he's running against the attorney general in the state Ken Paxton who uh Trump endorsed over the sitting senator there who which caused all kinds of rooks but the polling now in Texas of all places has the Democrats slightly ahead and there's a lot of questions being asked to that exact point. Is it because people just want someone to listen to them? Somebody who gets the sort of economic problems I mean the cost of living crisis is obviously a big deal here. It's a huge deal in the US as well. Groceries are extraordinarily expensive in a place that can kind of
produce everything it wants in its on its own land. Although I remember chasing Betto Aor around Texas when he was the James Talico of his day and the Democrats winning Texas has been so often the dog that hasn't barked but may but then eventually the dog will bark. The dog eventually will bark or maybe it won't but it might bark. It could bark. And on that decisive note uh I will say thank you so much Katrina for breaking into your holiday to come and spend two days on stage with Newscast. Thank you very much James. Thank you for just the start of your shift on the newscast stage here at the Edinburgh Festival. Thank you very much. And also thank you to the newscasters who came to see us here in Edinburgh.
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