White House Press Secretary Responds to Criticism Over Bar Exam Failure and First Briefing

White House Press Secretary Responds to Criticism Over Bar Exam Failure and First Briefing

White House Press Secretary Katie Zakaria faced scrutiny during her first briefing, with critics questioning her performance and legal credentials. The discussion touched on her bar exam failure and comparisons to predecessor Karoline Leavitt, as well as conversations about whether she is a lawyer.

Attorney or Not? Trump's Press Secretary Addresses Bar Exam Failure. | Transcript:

White House Press Secretary, okay, White House Press Secretary Katie Zakaria. I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, but I'll take a few minutes. She goes out and has her first day. Many said it was n't the best first day. Well, it's pretty hard to follow in Caroline Leavitt's footsteps, you know. It's not easy because she did a great job, but she did it. She had her first day. She received some criticism for not quite having a command of the material when she answered. She released a story about what would happen to Kimberly Guilfoyle. And then there were conversations about whether you are a lawyer or an attorney, and in one dialogue when Trump is around, I don't know if you have this clip.

Trump is asked about Katie, whether she's a lawyer or an attorney, and Trump just turns around and says, "Who are you?" And then she replies, if you want, you can show this clip. I need sound. Look at the president. No, no, no, no, do me a favor. Rewind 7 seconds. Look at what Trump is doing. Okay, a little more, a little more, a little more back before he turns around. Okay, look what he does. He turns to her. Okay, he's like saying: you have to explain this yourself. Wait for it. He looks at her because he hopes the team must have filtered it out.

Okay, but right there, do you know what the president looks like? This is a skeptical view. This is a skeptical view, and besides, forget about everyone who attacks her. This is their job. They should attack the press secretary. This is not an easy job. I congratulated her, but it's hard work. This is not the kind of job where you just go out there and have it easy. She is married. She has four children, all such small children. Oh yes, she is married with four children, and her husband is apparently in California taking care of them. So the point was, if you're a lawyer, you have a JD degree, you're not necessarily someone who passed the bar exam.

The lawyer passed the bar exam. Yesterday, Hannity had her questioned on Fox. I don't have a clip to show this. I think it's about 7-8 minutes, so we won't show everything. But yesterday on Hannity he's like, "Well, what about this, and what about that, and what about that?" And she was made claims. Now, Oh, she's finished. That's the thing. If this goes over here to Hannity, and Hannity is a friend, I mean, it's like, "Hey, maybe this is Anthony Scaramucci 2.0. We need to move on." Sharp. Remember " the sharp one"? Yes, maybe it's like Anthony Scaramucci 2.0. How long is this clip you have? I just want to show a snippet. I don't want to show everything. Okay, turn on the clip. Further.

I only had three questions in 14 minutes, and what would you do a little differently in the future? Uh, I can give you a piece of advice: this audience will never be friendly to you Yeah, so I, what I would say, I would absolutely This is not a clip. Don't worry about it. This is not a clip. In one of the clips, in one of the clips he says, " Why did you do that? Why did you call yourself that?" And then there are some tweets that you retweeted that claim you're a lawyer, people know that because you're not a lawyer, and so on. So, Hannity was pressuring her, and it didn't feel like a game, and the question now becomes: Tom, what do you think is going to happen next? Do you think she will last longer than Scaramucci or do you think it will happen sooner? I have my

own opinion. I want to hear yours. Um, first of all, I, I think she handled it really badly. Uh, you're going to a new job, there needs to be clarity. You should know that everyone will ask any questions. And her first response was, "Oh, it was in China." Her second answer, which I saw this morning, was: "No, I didn't take the exam." And so she follows what Pat quoted, which is the correct definition, that when you say " lawyer," you don't always mean it, but the main thing is always that you don't always mean, you know, taking the exam. If you say "attorney," you know, a lawyer in court, you take the exam under the guidance and with your license, now under the banner of a law firm, a licensed law firm. And then she came out and said that I didn't pass it. But

the use of the words " lawyer" and "advocate" now raises questions. Split it, Pete. This looks bad. You're trying to divide: "Oh, lawyer means maybe yes, maybe no, maybe I was just giving informal legal advice, having a law degree." You know, in my opinion, it was done very poorly. When you go to the press, you put the president in an awkward position. Here is my question to you. Who is this son? This is a question for the verification process. Did the inspection team know? What do you think, the verification team.what do you think?

She told the White House. What do you think…no, but do you think the review team was told, "I passed the bar exam"? If she.by the way, if you lied to the vetting team, you're done for. Now you've passed the bar exam, you lied. Oh man, we just interviewed a guy 3 months ago who claimed to have gone to a very prestigious school, and while we were doing background checks, we called the school. He was in despair. And he never went to this school, and then we asked him, and he says, "I have a degree." I'll show you guys on mine.

It's in storage. Show us on Tuesday, Wednesday. Oh, my dog went for a walk on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. No. He never attended the school he listed on his resume. We are not going to hire you. Yes. So, as for me… Yes. First of all, how the hell didn't the review team know this? Secondly, if you lied to the vetting team, you're done for. They will release you instantly. Third, I do n't think they fired her so quickly because I don't think Trump wants anyone other than Scaramucci to have the shortest tenure, a perfect ten. Scaramucci in style… I'm trying to tell you that Trump intentionally wants to leave Scaramucci "the worst" in this. Of course. They have a very strong conflict, and you know, Scaramucci

was with us. He himself is a very smart, capable guy. Probably more capable than her, but that's personal. This doesn't even compare. But I'm just saying that it's intentional. Yes. I think he will ask, "How many days?" Just make sure it stays "the worst". I think Trump is just like that, he loves revenge. I think she has. Can I add something else? with this. This is very Trumpian. Can I add Adam? Do you know who this is for? On whom? On the verification process and the verification team. It's not like they had 2 weeks.

She resigned 3 months ago. They had 3 months to essentially work through this and figure out, okay, who do we want to see as the representative? But if she By the way, if you look at everyone he hired as a press secretary, they are all blonde, attractive women. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, right? Oh, you're talking about this term. Because he is distracted. Starting with Kayleigh McKenney, he realizes: I want there to be attractive women there. Sean Spicer, Huckabee, thank you. How many more attractive blondes are there after Sean? Well, that's a good business move. It's like when you want to deliver bad news, let a pretty blonde do it, because that way it's easier for the public to swallow.

Yeah, but I mean, there aren't that many good news anchors. Although? Respect? Caroline Leavitt was the best. She was incredible. She's in her early twenties, this girl is half his age. She is twenty-something. Then she will succeed. But, but, but Caroline Leavitt, respect to you. Yes, but he's the CEO of the White House. The responsibility lies with him. This is a disgrace to the president. I can't disagree with you.

This really shames him. I'm not arguing. Oh yeah, by the way, this lady is useless. You saw her on Hannity. She is terrible at communicating with the media. So how did she get this job? FYI, let me say. You know, if I were Trump. let me tell you what would happen. Tommy, you know that. If I had a boyfriend like Tom, he would know what I like and what I don't. Yes. I will give him the right to make decisions. Right now I'm saying: Tom, hire whoever you think is right for this position. I have a lot of things on my mind.

He has it. He has his hands full. I can tell you. Yes. This was not a decision that Trump delved into and did due diligence on. He confided in someone, and I can guarantee you. I can guarantee that there was one very painful and horrible call for someone. Oh. You can't mess things up like that with a press secretary. You don't do things like that. So, listen, I mean, you know how the news cycle works, right? By Monday, everyone had already switched to something else. It's like boom, we look at the Dodgers, we look at this, we look at that, but someone will actually get that call. Ahem.

How do you think he does it? How does he do it? Trump. You are funny. How does he do it? We need a lady. It's you guys. You I've said it before. No, no, how does he.how does he give someone a beating? Like, how does he challenge someone face to face? Oh, he.he doesn't hesitate. He is calling. He is a phone call person. He calls right away and says, "Hey, you're done for. You.what.what are you doing? Yes. What.I entrusted you with conducting this inspection. What the hell? What did we miss during the review process? What are we doing here?

This is probably bad. This is not.this is the call you want to see. And there's a whole show about it. Pete, this.this is just my guess, but don't you think he personally chose this person? No. If you're going to be the person who represents me, make it look good. I don't. Really? No way. Okay. I don't think so. I'm telling you, I don't think so. I do n't think he chose it. By the way, you know, Levitt-it's like.

Listen, never, ever follow Levitt. Never. You know, you know what I really.you know what I think happened? Harold.Harold Minor. Let.let me tell you what you just made me think about. Let me tell you what I think happened. Here's what I think happened. I think there were three more qualified people who were called who were much more qualified than Katie to get that call, but they all declined.

They.He: "I don't want to perform after such a number." Because they don't want to leave after something like that. Go after the best comedian. It's like. Yeah, but by the way, I guarantee you that's exactly what it was. It's like performing after Vinny at "Def Comedy Jam." This is incredible. I guarantee you it happened, and other people are like: Do you think they gave up their jobs? 100%. Really? Yes, Trump. Trump has these rules. I don't think they're refusing such work No, no, no. Listen, are you kidding? How, how is your health, mom?

Yes. may be out of the game. It's from those same moments. But He wants, as Vice President, he chose a serious position. It doesn't matter. You won't be taking on this after 11. There are people who won't take on this job after 11. So, for some of you, yesterday we were at an event. A guy comes up and says, "Hey, about FLB shoes, before you buy them, do you know what size they are? Is it bigger or what?" And I say, "Look, they're a little bigger, a half size bigger." So if you want these, get this size." Right there, the guy is buying

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