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Is Bo Nicks clutch? Um, define clutch to me. I don't know. I All I saw was Dan Olowski call him the most clutch quarterback in the league. And you had some more to say about that. Th this is what I consider clutch, right? And this is why like I question some things that people say and people could look at it differently. What I think clutch is like when I'm watching the NBA finals and I see Wimby have 40 and Shay have 38 and they're the difference in their team winning every game. Like that's that's kind of how I see it. Like who's going to have the best last two minutes to win a game? We saw it between Stephen Curry and Orlando Magic and OT. Steph Curry played the best through the final
moments of the game, but he also played good all game. You know what I mean? Like I just think like when we're talking about clutch, it just can't be one moment. It has to be consistent greatness and then in that final moment like what we talk about Jordan was clutch, right? When it came that fourth quarter and Kobe, they going to get there was no one better than them in that quarter. Like they're the best player on the field. I'm just saying in those moments I don't think that it's just Bo Nicks and he's just the best player on the field or on the court. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of things that go into it that I that's why I question. Like I wouldn't just say those is his wins.
Yeah. He doesn't do anything that you separates him in terms of him being the reason. Yeah. Like honestly like if we're going to talk about clutch, I look at Patrick Mahomes down the first time they beat Philly beat him the next year they were down what 14 21 I think. Yeah, they were down. They were down like at least three scores. That's clutch to me. I think through that third and fourth quarter, there wasn't a better player consistently, not one drive than Patrick Mahomes put together backtoback multiple touchdown like drives together. I think about also the year they played San Fran, right?
He's putting together drives like eight play drives, you know what I mean? like nine play drives, touchdowns, like he's putting together a drive, not just explosive plays and we're getting a field goal position or explosive plays. Hey, DPI, DPI, DPI. Like, like I get it. Like those is like you're putting your receivers in those position, but like I said, like it's a difference between like clutch and just getting bailed out of situations that's allowing you to win. Like there goes more into winning. And when I and my I question is like when I'm looking at their games, right? The game they lost to Seattle, did that wasn't clutch. They didn't win overtime because of Bo Knicks. Their defense got another stop, another
interception. And now you're telling me all we got to do is get in field goal range and kick a field goal. That's not clutch to me. when they beat the Rams, they had they even had the one video. He was even shocked that it was a DPI. They like, "Oh, like move the ball." Like, so to me, like, uh, like, yeah, he's a good player. He's a starting quarterback in the league. I'm not taking that away from him. But like, to me, it takes more than just being clutch. Like, I need you to be the best player. You know what I mean? Like, like we can't just have three very average quarters and then finally put it together in the fourth quarter.
Yeah. The thing that makes him not clutch to me is he's the reason that they're in these situations. Exactly. That's my that's that's my thing. Carolina Panthers are not a good football team. They're actually a bad football team. You're down in the fourth quarter. It's not a major loss. It's 13 You're 1312. You're already driving. They're he's just doing enough. But he is the reason that they're constantly in these position. He's missing open receivers first to third quarter. like we shouldn't be here in this situation be talking about a clutch or comeback.
I wouldn't say Carolina is a bad football team. I just think they've had devastating injuries like Yeah. Like we lost both corners. Yeah. They're on practice squad corners. Hello. Like they're on practice squads corners and we're counting a comeback win in the fourth quarter. Like that's they have no have to get a new defensive coordinator. No corners. Like they're just out there trying to make it and you're scraping to get by versus Carolina. I think that's more my problem, right? And that's why I say clutch. Like I It's hard to say Bon Knicks is the most clutch when you seen so much greatness through
your lifetime. I seen Tom Brady down 21 in the Super Bowl and win a game. And I'm not saying it was just Tom Brady. Like it was a team thing, but he was the best player on that field during that comeback. And obviously there was amazing catches, there was amazing everything, but I've seen so much greatness through the years that I just like I just can't put everyone in that same category. Like even, you know, and that's why it's hard because it's not just one player. It's a combination of effort, skill, things like that. Cuz Patrick Mahomes when he had Tyreek, it just wasn't fair, bro.
Remember when they had 13 seconds left versus a Buffalo? Yes. They threw a slant to Tyreek and he took it 80. Like, you can't coach that. Like, but it's like he made the throw. It was the right read. Like, he got it done. Yeah, he got it done. But, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like I just seems like I just don't think it's all him. And I just don't like I hate when people get diminished and just take I'm not saying he's taking all the credit, but the love of the wins aren't getting shared and he's kind of getting uh We're not talking about the defense.
We're not talking about all the other good things with that team. Special teams. Yeah. They force turnovers at the right moment. They do all those things. But we're talking about clutch quarterbacks. If it's not Bo Nicks, who is the most clutch quarterback? We have Patrick Mahomes. He holds the best record for quarterbacks when entering the fourth quarter, losing. Matthew Stafford, fifth in all time comebacks. Josh Allen, fourth in EPA when tra when trailing. We got Joe Burrow. He's had the ball 27 times in his career with under a minute remaining. He successfully scored on 18 of those drives. And then we got Lamar Jackson 119 passer rating in the fourth quarter in one score games.
You know, to me it's going to come down to Pat and Matthew Stafford. Like um [snorts] when I watch Matthew Stafford last year and even there's games this year, a lot of games been decided in two minutes of the game. And when he has the ball with two minutes, he's the most dangerous person I've ever seen. Like just dangerous. Like I think there was a throw last year when I'm they're you know they're on the verge of losing to the Bears. They need momentum. It was like maybe like a third and eight and he no looks this pass to the sideline. great coverage to Devonte Adams on the sideline and Devonte Adams totaps it and that was probably the deciding factor of the game. That is clutch to me. Like the throws he makes, the mindset he has
it's it's honestly crazy. But if you put Pat with some crazy weapons and the history of what he's done, even if he doesn't have crazy weapons, he came back and beat the Niners without Tyreek Hill, you know what I mean? He did it without like when they won like no real running I mean running back wasn't Kenneth Walker. Yeah, running back is not Kenneth Walker. We had Kelsey and we had guys Nico Harmon Hartman Sky Moore um Rashi Rice. So like I done seen Pat do some amazing things. So it to me those two right there is the most like clutch and not only just clutch just dominant to being clutch. I feel like every time I see Patrick Mahomes in a situation where his best is required he performs at his best.
Yeah 100%. It's kind of why we don't talk about as a top talk about him as a top five quarterback right now. I just think it's the is the position that elevated, but when you watch week to week, he's playing well, but I don't think he's necessarily playing like a top five quarterback. You know, I think it's a combination of things. One, the running game is working really well, so why get away from it? Like I think that's what we should appreciate. Like most teams have so many egos when it comes to calling the offensive game plan, which I respected by Andy Reid, hey Pat, we don't need you to be Superman anymore. That's kind of
how you got hurt. Let's protect you a little bit. Let's get this free Superman and free agency, Kenneth Walker, and run this football and we can create play action passes and create downhill deep throws off the play action. Um, so I think it's more of that like they're they're not holding that ego and saying, "Hey, Pat needs to be the guy. You know, we're paying him a lot of money, so he needs to be throwing the football." No, that's not uh I appreciate, you know, Andy Reed for that. Like they're they're very real about that.
