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Uh, one last thing before we finish. Are you following what's happening in this big Senate election in Texas, James Talarico and Ken Paxton? Are you following this at least a little bit I saw a little. I'm usually out of politics, just bring me up to speed. What do I need to know? You don't even need to know anything about it. So these two guys are pitted against each other, and one of them disappears for 9 days. OK? It disappears for 9 days, and it's faster than reading body language. OK? This is nothing more than politics. Just do you believe him or not? So, it's a big race, a huge race. Ken Paxton may not be the most interesting candidate the James Talarico,
extremely talented, sophisticated, very charming, charismatic, right? If it's sincere, Patrick, I don't mind. He says he was sick with the flu for 9 days. In one scene, he says he went to the emergency room. In another scene, he says he went to see his doctor. OK. This reporter asks him. See if you believe him or not. We continue. that I went to the emergency room here in Dallas and was diagnosed with the flu. How serious was it? Someone wants to know. Was it just bed rest, or did you have to go to the doctor or the hospital? I just went to my family doctor, but it was no worse than, you know, a nasty case of the flu. Uh And last night it got so bad that
I went to the emergency room here in Dallas and was diagnosed with the flu. How serious was it? Someone wants to know. this is the biggest race, this is the third most important race in the upcoming midterm elections. That's 9 days of disappearance, 10 two or three weeks before election day. Do you believe him? No. I mean, he's just lying. He's telling two different stories, right? Yes. So, no. It's immediately clear that he's lying. So one scene is "I went to my family doctor," and the other is "I went to the emergency room." In one he says, "Oh, it's nothing special."
Yes? And in another he says, "Oh, that was something serious." Mm. So I get two different This is a criminal. These are the guys I would keep in an interrogation room. That's right, what kind of story is this Really? Well, yes. I don't know him. You're asking me to do only clean. Can you find a little more conversation to see if she has any more content? It is necessary. But what do you do in such a situation? I would confirm this. Show me the receipt. Show me the medical document. Show me something that proves you were there. OK. I'll do something if you don't mind. Go ahead. Yes.
Let me press pause. I'll go back to the beginning. I'll just do it because there are a few points there. Wait. So, I'll just turn on, explain, turn on, explain. M-hm. You have been absent from the campaign for more than a week, approximately 9 days. The thing is, these are just indicators. This is not. Again, I want to clarify, this does not mean that someone is necessarily lying or not. These are things I notice. First, he stands very stiffly.
Yes? He hardly moves. He moves his arms a little bit near the end, but he's very stiff. It's like he's not relaxed. So if I have high cognitive load, if I'm going to lie, I won't move much because I'm trying really hard to be attentive and not make a uh mistake. Now, you might encounter this with guests if you ever see them. I don't know if it's ever happened to you that sometimes people are very constrained. This is simply because the workload is so high. So, you can usually see this in people who are about to lie, right? I'm all on the platoon. I'm so worried. I'm going to lie. I really need to be on top of things. So, he just looks very stiff. It's just a body. Just simple indicators.
9 days, I believe. Uh, your campaign said you had the flu. What happened? Yes, I had the flu. This doesn't mean anything. Uh, that's bad. It means something, but it doesn't mean something. He smiles a lot. This seems like a very strange interview to smile about. Except this guy always smiles in every interview he's given in the past. Here's what I would look at. But why is he smiling so much? Now, smiling can also be a sign that I'm really, really nervous. And a lot of people, when they're really, really nervous, Patrick, smile a lot or laugh a lot at inappropriate times. But it could also be a red flag here. Yes? Why are you so nervous?
Why are you smiling so much? This is a seen people laughing at the wrong moment and you think, "Don't laugh, that's not funny at all"? Ugh. They relieve stress through smiling. Interesting. Yes. That's another thing I notice. Let me see what else. Yes, I got the flu. Um, and I feel a lot better, um, and I'm glad I had a chance to get better, you know, if you don't So, yeah, I got the flu. I feel much better and I'm glad I had.So he's taking the conversation in a different direction. It's like, "I just had the flu."
Smiling all the time. He maintains good eye contact. You know, if you don't take the opportunity to recover, sometimes you can get even sicker, so I'm glad we made the decision to just take a week to recover. like this . I'm glad we made this decision. Who is "we"? You know what this reminds me of? Remember Anthony Wiener many years ago, when he sent an inappropriate photo and then he was interviewed and he said, "We're doing this." " We do that." "We're doing it." Who is "we"? It's you. So, who is "we"? Because he says "we" several times. "We did this", "we did that", and " I'm glad we decided this". Who is " we"? You have decided. So when you introduce "we," it's a great way to say, "It's not just
me." "These are mine, all my people are behind me." So, this is a definite alarm signal. Who is "we"? You don't need "we" if you are usually transparent and tell the truth. I'm recovering, and now I'm happy to get back to work. You mentioned that you are diabetic, and when diabetics get the flu, it can be very dangerous. How bad was it for those who want to know? Was it just bed rest, or did you have to see a doctor or go to the hospital? I just went to my family doctor. I didn't go to the emergency room or anything like that. I went to my.
He went to the emergency room, and here he's talking about a family doctor. This is not the same thing. So you have two completely different stories. What a liar.I'm not saying he's lying. But usually those who. they change their testimony. People have a hard time remembering their lies, especially when they are stressed. And maybe he's trying to change his story so that everything does n't look like it really is. You know, like it was a bad flu. Um, and so I was in bed and, you know, drinking a lot of fluids. Unfortunately, the campaign forced me to work from home Made me work from home. So, this is "we"-this is the campaign. This is me and my So let me
ask you something else These are the things I notice. So, okay, here's something else. This is a call they made to the institution because they say he was admitted to a psychiatric hospital. Because it was a threat, right? This is a call to the Linder Center for Hope. Someone just calls and says, "What happened to James Talerico?" I want you to judge the woman's voice, whether she is lying or telling the truth. Of course. Take action. So, they're looking for James Talerico. looks like he.she was just discharged tonight. That's why I don't have it.
Oh, so he was discharged? Mhm. OK. And this is Hope. So he must be. Okay. Mhm, sorry. This.I'll make sure everything is correct.this.this is Leander Hope. Yeah, yeah. Good. And you're in Hamilton, Ohio? No, we are not in Hamilton. No, we're in Mason. Good. So that's why he's been out of touch, and he's recently.okay. A second for me? OK. I just want to do it in parts. So, a few things. We have a long pause. 10 seconds. Because she's trying to figure out: what should I say? She doesn't know what to say. She is confused. She's like, "Oh, what can I say?"
No one instructed her, like: "Don't say anything." So, I think this woman is thinking, "Am I allowed to say something? Should I say something? Is this a family member? This woman doesn't know. This poor woman just doesn't know what to do. She probably shouldn't have Most likely, no. And by the way, they commented later and said that the Linder Healing Center denied it. They made a statement that Talerico never received treatment at the Linder Healing Center. What should they say? They would never. They say we. never treated him? Let me read it to you again. So, they said. Are they saying we never treated him? This is different from the fact that we don't.
We've never received treatment. He never.well. They made a statement that James Talarico never received treatment at the Linder Healing Center. Okay, so they say we never treated him. Yes. So I would.I would suspect that they wouldn't lie. I think they wouldn't lie because I would n't lie. If it were my institution, I do n't think I would lie and say something like that. This is a pretty blatant lie. To say that this person never came. That's the only thing I would think about. True. And here is their tweet. And down below, Viva Fry, who is a lawyer, we've invited him a few times, said, "I've been practicing law long enough to understand how
answers can be both truthful and misleading." The statement said Talarico never received treatment at the Linder Hope Center The use of the term "treatment" may be questioned. Was he a patient they never treated, or was the treatment provided by someone else, some other organization or psychiatrist, which brings us to the most likely difference? If the statement is true but misleading, then other separate entities operate within the Linder Hope Center, such as "." From what I understand, this is a private practice that operates as a division within Linder. Okay, so. So maybe they're using the wording to get out of it, and it's a separate organization, and they're trying to do that because they can't.they can't As for her, at one point when she
answers him in that previous interview, she says, " Yes, sir." "Question: So he left?"-and she says, "Mm." It's like she doesn't.she doesn't give a damn. she's trying. she doesn't know what to say. True. She doesn't.you can see that she's confused, doesn't know what to say, and understands: should I say this? Should n't I say this? So I don't think this woman is lying. Again, I do n't know, but I can understand them using wording, perhaps to hide it. But for me, the biggest red flag, honestly, is that he's giving you two completely different interviews, Patrick. He is saying two completely different things.
It's like, what's true about this? And you know, I don't know this person, but he's also running for Congress. Shouldn't you, being in such positions, be responsible for your words? Yes. Is this Congress or the Senate, by the way? This is one of two. Senate, okay. Senate, yes. You know, you have to be very The most important thing that many people ask about: maybe if you did it in July or June, but you're doing it in October, 10 days before the election, and by the way, the chances of him winning are still high. So it doesn't seem like it affected Cal Cunningham's position in any way. They still say this guy is going to win the Senate race in Texas. These are big races. Well, uh,
before we. Did you want to say something? I just think it's very important, and again, I don't know that. I'm apolitical, but I really think it's important for people not to vote emotionally, but instead to look at things realistically and evaluate them. So if you have signs that someone is saying something they can't do or that's not true, I would just ask people to be reasonable and judge a person by their actions, not by what you project onto them and what you want to believe. But we act as if we are wearing blinders. It's like.and the thing is, even if you had something, if proof, Patrick, that it's true, that he lied, the people who want to vote for him will still vote for him. They are loyal. something will change.
No, it's like once I decided Yes. it doesn't matter anymore. I hear what I want to hear. Even if you tell me something rational and logical, I won't hear you. I made a decision, so this is strange. It's like we as humans are very emotional and we don't let in new information, even our objectivity M-m. completely just disappears. We think we are objective, but we are not. I hear what I want to hear, what suits me, and what aligns with the decision I want to make. Yeah, I mean, listen, this is one of the most important races. We will find out on November 3rd what will happen. Handmade in Portugal.
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