Trump Stands Firm on Susie Wiles as White House Shakeup Continues

THIS IS "BALANCE OF POWER," LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. KAILEY: TONIGHT, ONE AND DONE. AFTER A ROCKY FIVE DAYS AS WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY, KATIE ZACHARIA IS OUT OF A JOB. PRESIDENT TRUMP: I WANT HER TO HAVE A GOOD LIFE, NOT A LIFE LIKE SHE'S LED IN THE LAST THREE DAYS. KAILEY: THE REACTION TONIGHT AFTER THE PRESIDENT RELIEVED ZACHARIA FROM HER DUTIES AFTER A RECORD SHORT TENURE. PLUS, CRUDE AWAKENING, OIL HITTING ITS HIGHEST SINCE MAY AS GLOBAL ENERGY SUPPLIES COME UNDER FIRE AND TRUMP'S PLAN FOR RUSSIAN DIESEL RUNS UNDER BIPARTISAN PRESSURE IN WASHINGTON. AND TRUMP TAKES HIS MIDTERM

BLITZ TO GEORGIA WITH EARLY VOTING ALREADY UNDERWAY. WELCOME TO "BALANCE OF POWER." I'M KAILEY LEINZ. JOE MATTHEW HAS THE NIGHT OFF AND WE BEGIN HERE IN WASHINGTON WHERE THE SEARCH FOR A NEW WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY IS BACK ON LESS THAN A WEEK AFTER IT ENDED. KATIE ZACHARIA IS OUT. HER REMARKABLY SHOWER FIVE-DAY TENURE UNDONE BY A ROCKY BEGINNING AND QUESTIONS ABOUT HERB CREDENTIALS. PRES. TRUMP: I SAID KATIE, DO YOU NEED THIS? I DON'T THINK YOU NEED THIS. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING. WE LIKE KATIE A LOT. I THINK SHE'S REALLY, REALLY BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FIRING HER? PRES. TRUMP: NO, NO, WE WANT HER TO HAVE A GOOD LIFE, NOT A LIFE LIKE SHE'S LED THE LAST THREE DAYS. KAILEY:

AFTER A TURBULENT WEEK ACROSS THE ADMINISTRATION, SHE'S HARDLY THE ONLY ONE TO LEAVE THE ADMINISTRATION. HE DIDN'T OPENLY SAY TO REPORTERS THAT HE WAS GOING TO FINE HER. IS HE LIKELY TO TRY TO REPLACE HER ANYTIME SOON? WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY THIS WOULD COME ABOUT. CAME ABOUT MORE QUICKLY PEOPLE THOUGHT IN SOME WAYS. SO I THINK WE COULD GO SOME TIME BEFORE HAVING ONE. IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHO THE CANDIDATES ARE. SOME OF THE OBVIOUS TOP TIER ONES HAVE DISTANCED THEMSELVES FROM IT AND REMEMBER, THEY'RE COMING INTO A TOUGH TIME.

THE PRESIDENT WOULD LOSE ONE OR BOTH HOUSES IN CONGRESS. NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE DOMINATED BY THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND CHALLENGES TO THE ADMINISTRATION SO IT WILL BE LESS FUN BEING DONALD TRUMP'S SPOKESPERSON THAN THE FIRST HALF. WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES BUT HE CAME OUT THERE. WE WERE ALL LOOKING AT THE WRITING ON THE WALL THEY WAS WRITING OVER AND OVER. WHILE THEY WERE STILL LOOKING AT THE WRITING ON THE WALL, SHE WALKED OUT THE DOOR NEXT TO IT. KAILEY: THE PRESIDENT IS CRISSCROSSING THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW TRYING TO MAKE THE PITCH TO VOTERS TO KEEP REPUBLICANS IN THE MAJORITY. HE'S IN GEORGIA AS WE SPEAK.

HE'LL WITH THIS KENTUCKY TOMORROW. HOW MUCH MORE DIFFICULT IS THAT JOB IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEONE SHOWING UP ON TV? I THINK THE PERSPECTIVE LIKES SOMEONE DEFENDING HIM AND AT A TIME WHEN IT'S NEEDED. DICELE RATES ARE HIGH AND GASOLINE. THAT IS A CHALLENGE AND HE WANTS PEOPLE TO FIGHT FOR HIM AND THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING SOMEONE TO DO THAT. IT SPEAKS TO THE TENSION THAT ALLIES WANT HIM TO FOCUS MORE ON THESE AFFORDABILITY ISSUES. WE'VE LEARNED TIME AND TIME THAT TRUMP IS TRUMP. HISTORY IS LITTERED WITH AIDES WHO MUCH TRIED TO KEEP HIM ON MESSAGE. IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS HE'S GOING TO DO WHAT HE ALWAYS DOES, ADD MORE TRUMP AND HIT

THE ROAD FOR THESE CANDIDATES. I THINK IT'S A BIT OF AN OPEN QUESTION HOW MANY CANDIDATES WANT HIM TO MAKE THE PITCH FOR HIM. RIGHT NOW IT'S SORT OF THE -- ZACHARIA QUESTION IS WHO'S NEXT. THERE'S BEEN REPORTING OF SUSAN WILES OVER THE WEEK. PRESIDENT TRUMP GIVING A STRONG ENDORSEMENT OF SUSIE WILES SO PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THAT'S QUELLED DOWN FOR NOW BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. SHE'S ALREADY THE LONGEST SERVING CHIEF OF STAFF IN TRUMP'S TENURE ACROSS BOTH TERMS. SO WE'LL SEE. IF WE CONTINUE TO SEE MORE TURNOVER IN THE BROADER TRUMP WORLD, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE MIDTERMS GO BADLY FOR HIM. KAILEY: HOW MUCH FOR JOINING.

THE FORMER ACTING CHIEF OF STAFF FROM THE FIRST TRUMP WHITE HOUSE MICK MULVANEY IS JOINING US AGAIN. YOU ARE UNIQUELY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THIS CAN GO DOWN AND I NEED NO DISRESPECT BUT YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE BEING OUSTED FROM A JOB IN THE WHITE HOUSE BY THIS PRESIDENT. ARE YOU SURPRISED AROUND THIS DECISION AROUND KATIE ZACHARIA? NICK: NO OFFENSE TAKEN. I'M A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED THAT IT HAPPENED SO QUICK LIP. DID SHE STAY LONGER THAN STAR MUSHY OR IS -- SCARAMOUCHE OR -- SHE DIDN'T DO WELL.

SHE DID NOT GO WELL IN HER FIRST ROLLOUT. MY TAKE ON IT IS THAT THEY SET HER UP TO FAIL. THEY DIDN'T GIVE HER MUCH PREP TIME AHEAD OF TIME. THEY GAVE HER SOME SOFTBALL QUESTIONS BUT ONE QUESTION SHE GOT FROM A FAVORABLE OUTLET WAS A SERIOUS QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN UKRAINE AND SHE HAD TO SAY SHE'D GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. THAT'S NOT AN ACCEPTABLE ANSWER MOST OF THE TIME FROM THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY. SHE'S OUT, GONE. I THINK THE BETTER QUESTION YOU ASKED A SECOND AGO, WHO REPLACES HER AND DOES TRUMP REALLY NEED A PRESS SECRETARY?

STEPHANIE GRISHAM WAS OUR PRESS S.E.C. FOR MOST OF 2019 AFTER SARAH HUCKABEE AND I DON'T THINK SHE EVER DID A PRESS CONFERENCE SO THE ANSWER IS NO, DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T NEED A PRESS SECRETARY IF HE DOESN'T WANT ONE. KAILEY: WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THE MIDTERMS. 18 DAYS FROM THE ELECTION DAY. DOES THAT NOT PUT MORE PRESSURE ON A PRESS SECRETARY? NIMICK: I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS INSTEAD OF WHATEVER THE WHITE HOUSE WANTS US TO TALK ABOUT. IT'S NOT A SCANDAL BUT IT'S SORT OF THE WHITE HOUSE DRAMA THAT MOTION WILL PAY ATTENTION TO FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 24 HOURS. IT WILL BE ON SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE, I'M SURE AND TAKE ATTENTION THERE.

IT'S ATTENTION AWAY FROM WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS FOLKS TO BE FOCUSING ON. KAILEY: I'M SURE YOU SAW THE REPORTING IN POLITICO THIS WEEK THAT TRUMP HAS BEEN CALLING AROUND ASKING PEOPLE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT SUSAN WILES. HE DID TELL REPORTERS THAT THERE'S ZERO CHANCE OF HIM FIRING HER AND SHE'S GOING TO BE AROUND FOR A LONG TIME TO COME. DO YOU BUY IT? MICK: I BUY IT FOR TODAY. I'M STILL VERY CLOSE WITH FORMER MEMBERS OF MY STAFF. ONE OF THEM SENT ME A PIECE FROM FEBRUARY OF 2020 WHERE TOUCH SAID ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING ABOUT ME AND I WAS GONE ABOUT TWO WEEKS LATER. THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO

LEAVE THE WHITE HOUSE. I THINK SUSIE IS GOING TO LIVE UNDER A CLOUD. JOHN KELLY DID. HIS RHYTHM WITH THE PRESIDENT HAS SOURED. SUSIE'S HASN'T SOURED. MILLER DIDN'T SOUR. I GOT TO BE A SPECIAL ENVOY TO IRELAND, WHICH IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO DO. I THINK SUSIE STILL IS IN VERY, VERY GOOD STANDING WITH THE PERIOD OF TIME. STILL GOING TO HAVE INFLUENCE. MY GUESS IS SHE MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN QUICKLY MOVING KATIE OUT. IN A REQUIRE LEAK IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT SEWELLSY WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE HIRING OF ZACHARIA TO BEGIN WITH.

YOU HAVE TO WONDER IF SUSIE WAS INVOLVED IN HER REMOVAL. THE RELATIONSHIP IS GOOD. WHETHER SHE'S THERE VERY MUCH LONGER I THINK IS ANYBODY'S GUESS. AFTER THE MIDTERMS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR HER DEPARTURE IF SHE LEAVES. KAILEY: IT DEPENDS ON JUST HOW BRUISING THE MIDTERMS ARE FOR THE PRESIDENT AND THE REPUBLICANS. HISTORY WOULD HAVE HAD SUGGEST SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS COMING AND IT'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER IT'S ONE CHAMBER OR BOTH. IS THAT YOUR ASSESSMENT? MICK: AS IN WASHINGTON AND IN LIFE, TALK IS CHEAP AND THAT LOOK AT WHAT PEOPLE DO.

WHAT ARE THE REPUBLICANS DOING? THEY'RE PULLING MONEY OUT OF VARIOUS RACES. CLOSE-FOUGHT RACES HYPOTHETICAL THEY HAD A CHANCE IN. PULLING MONEY OUT OF CONGRESSIONAL RAILSES IN IOWA, PULLING MONEY OUT OF SENATE RACES IN NORTH CAROLINA. THAT MEANS EITHER YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO WIN OR YOU DON'T WANT TO WASTE THE MONEY BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE. THEY DON'T KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO WIN IN THOSE PLACES. SO ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. I DO THINK THE HOUSE IS PROBABLY GONE. THE SENATE IS STILL 50-50. TRUMP, IF THERE ARE GOING TO BE INVESTIGATIONS, IMPEACHMENT OR PERHAPS SEVERAL, YOU BRING FROM A DIFFERENT KIND OF CHIEF OF STAFF.

IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT. RUNNING POLICY THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF AN ADMINISTRATION CAN BE VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE SECOND TWO. DURING THE FIRST TERM OF TRUMP WE HAD REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE. DURING THE SECOND TERM, WE HAD ADAPTS IN, IT WAS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT. KAILEY: SO WHO IN YOUR MIND WOULD BE THE RIGHT DOG FOR THAT FIGHT? MICK: THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. I WOULDN'T WANT TO SPEAK TO IT BECAUSE MOSTLY I HAVEN'T ASKED PEOPLE IF THEY WANT ME TO SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT THEM BECAUSE THEY WANT THE JOB OR NOT SAY NICE THINGS BECAUSE THEY DON'T

WANT THE JOB. SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WASHINGTON VERY WELL. SUSIE, NOT REALLY FROM WASHINGTON AS MUCH AS SHE WAS FROM FLORIDA. NOT REALLY A NEGATIVE BUT IF IT DOES GET DOWN TO THINGS LIKE IMPEACHMENT, YOU NEED FOLKS WHO UNDERSTAND WASHINGTON A LITTLE BIT MACHINE. AND YOU ALSO WANT SOMEBODY FAMILIAR WITH INVESTIGATIONS, IMPEACHMENTS, SO MAYBE SOMEBODY COMING BACK FROM THE FIRST TERM. IT COULD BE A LONG LIST OF PEOPLE BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO THROW ANY NAMES OUT THERE BEFORE ASKING PEOPLE WHAT THEY THINK FIRST. KAILEY: I WOULD IMAGINE, YOU WOULDN'T THROW YOUR NAME OUT THERE? MICK:

NO, ONE IMPEACHMENT IS ENOUGH FOR ME, THANKS VERY MUCH. KAILEY: NICK MICK MULVANEY AND ALSO FORMER CONGRESSMAN FROM NORTH CAROLINA. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. CHIP MAKERS LEADING STOCKS LOWER THIS WEEK AND OIL BACK ON THE RISE. WE SPEAK WITH NORAH MULINDA. NORAH: THIS WEEK STARTED OUT AS A BANK EARNINGS STORY BUT ULTIMATELY A STRESS TEST FOR THE A.I. TRADE. S&P 500 FALLING AND SEEING ITS BIGGEST WEEKLY LOSS SINCE JUNE. A LOT OF PRESSURE IN THE MARKET AND CHIP MAKERS TAKING THE BRUNT OF THE DECLINES THIS WEEK.

WE SAW THE PHILADELPHIA SEMICONDUCTOR INDEX SEEING ITS LONGEST LOSING STREAK SINGS 2008 AND A LOT OF THESE CONCERNS COMING IN THE MARKET AS A LOT OF FOCUS IS ON THE TECH SPACE WITH CONCERNS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL SEE RETURN ON NET WHEN WE THINK ABOUT ALL THE SPENDING GOING INTO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND WE SAW COREWEAVE LOSING ABOUT A QUARTER OF ITS VALUE ON THE WEEK. WE CONTINUE TO SEE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS COMPANY ESPECIALLILY REPRESENTED TO IT CREDIT STRESS, AND ANTHROPIC WAS AN OVERHANG IN THE BROADER MARKET. ANTHROPIC, THE FACT THAT REVENUE IS STILL GOING FAST BUT STILL SLOWING ON A QUARTER OVER

QUARTER BASIS. SO ALL OF THESE WEIGHING ON THE BROADER MARKET AND MORE PARTICULARLY THE TECH INDUSTRY BUT I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING MORE BROADLY ON A GEOPOLITICAL FRONT. WE HAVE SO MUCH FOCUS ON THE OIL MARKET AND WE SAW BRENT CRUDE COMING UP TO THAT 10 A BARREL AND HITTING ITS HIGHEST SINCE MAY. THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CONCERN ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE U.S. AND IRAN AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL BE ABLE TO REACH A DEAL THERE. A LOT OF IT'SOR ANGST ON WALL STREET AND DRIVING THE VIX, A DEAL WHICH IS WALL STREET'S FEAR GAUGE. THE VIX TOPPING THE 20 HANDLE TODAY. SO WE SAW A SURGE.

THE BIGGEST JUMP DATING BACK TO JUNE. SO NEXT WEEK WE'LL GET SOME TECH EARNINGS TO PARSE THROUGH. NETFLIX REPORTING, META, SPACEX, TESLA. SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHETHER SOME OF THESE CAN RESTORE CONFIDENCE INTO THE A.I. TRAILED. KAILEY: A LOT TO LOOK FORWARD TO THANK YOU. COMING UP, THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS TAKING ITS CASE FOR FREE ENTERPRISE ON THE ROAD. PERSPECTIVE AND C.E.O. SUZANNE CLARK JOINS US FOR MORE ON "BALANCE OF POWER" ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO. KAILEY: IT'S 18 DAYS FROM ELECTION DAY AND THE BATTLE OF COST IS GROWING INTO A BROADER DEBATE OVER HOW TO GROW THE ECONOMY. THE U.S.

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS TAKING ITS ANSWER ON THE ROAD. IT'S BUS TOUR IS TRAVELING THROUGH 20 STATES PROMOTING PRO-BUSINESS CANDIDATES IN BOTH PARTIES. AS BUSINESSES FACE MAJOR HEADWINDS FROM INFLATION, TARIFFS AND THE RAPID RISE OF AI. JOINING US IS SUZANNE CLARK, PRESIDENT AND C.E.O. OF THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND SHE'S LEIF FROM THAT BUS TOUR CURRENTLY IN DALLAS. I BELIEVE YOU'RE JOINING US FROM BARLEY HOUSE RESTAURANT AND TAP ROOM. AS YOU CRISSCROSS IS COUNTRY AND FACE DIFFERENT AREAS TALKING TO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, WHAT IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN YOU'RE HEARING? SUZANNE: THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, I AM HERE AT BARLEY.

A SMALL BUSINESS IN DALLAS, TEXAS. WE'RE HEAR TALKING TO SOME S.M.U. STUDENTS. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT DO THEY NEED IN ORDER TO GROW THE ECONOMY? WHAT TYPES OF CANDIDATES AND POLICIES. BUSINESS CAN SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS FOR SOCIETY IF GIVEN THE CHANCE. KAILEY: ARE YOU HEARING THAT THEY NEED NEW POLICIES OR THAT THEY NEED SOME EXISTING POLICIES PERHAPS TO BE WALKED BACK? I'M THINKING THINGS THAT RAISE COSTS FOR BUSINESSES LIKE TARIFFS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR HOT WARS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND ELSEWHERE THAT ARE RAISING ENERGY PRICES.

IS IT MORE THAT THEY NEED SOME THINGS TO END THAN MORE THINGS TO BEGIN? SUZANNE: THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THEY TALK A LOT ABOUT CERTAINTY. THEY WANT TO NEVIS IN THE UNITED STATES. THEY NEED PERMITS TO REFORM, GETTING PERMITS EASIER AND FASTER. THEY ARE HAPPY TO SEE A SECURE BORDER. THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE LEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THIS COUNTRY. YES, A REDUCTION IN TARIFFS, MORE ACTUAL TRADE AGREEMENTS THAT OPEN UP MARKETS, THAT MAKE SUPPLY CHAINS MORE CONSISTENT. KAILEY: PERMITTING REFORM WAS A LIVE EFFORT IN THE SENATE BEFORE THEY RECESSED FOR THE BREAK AND IT COULD BE PICKED UP BUT HOW MUCH DO YOU SEE BY CANDIDATES?

IS IT REALLY ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH AND WHAT IT CAN DO OR IS A LOT OF THIS BEING DRIVEN BY THE PRESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE? SUZANNE: MAYBE IT'S BEING DRIVEN A LITTLE BIT BY SOMETHING ELSE, THE PUBLIC NARRATIVE. HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE HOST OF HOUSING AND HEALTH CARE BY EXPLAINING AND TALKING TO BUSINESSES TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS. A POLL SHOWING THIS RISING PRO SOCIALISM MOVE, THAT'S NEVER WORKED FOR ANYBODY AT ANY TIME. WE WANT FOR BUSINESSES TO HAVE A PRO-BUSINESS SPIRIT AND THAT'S WHY WE TOOK THE BUS TOUR ON THE ROAD. KAILEY: YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF CANDIDATES ALIGNED WITH THE D. D.S.A. WHO HAVE WON IN PRIORITIES AND ARE GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT. BUT DO YOU SEE SOME THINGS THAT

HAVE COME OUT OF THIS ADMINISTRATION INCLUDING TAKING STEAKS IN COMPANIES AND SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO GET A $5,000 CHECK IF THE REPUBLICANS WIN THE MIDTERMS. IS THE PRESIDENT LEANING TOWARDS SOME OF THOSE SOCIALIST TENDENCIES AND IS THAT A PROBLEM? SUZANNE:, NO I DON'T THINK THE PRESIDENT IS A SOCIALIST BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO STAMP OUT BAD IDEAS WHEREVER THEY'RE COMING FROM. KAILEY: AS YOU TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE HARMFUL FOR BUSINESS, TALK TO US MORE ABOUT THE BUSINESS CLIMATE. YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE HEARING A LOT ON THIS TOUR ABOUT BUSINESSES AND WHAT THEY NEED. WHAT ARE THEY TELLING YOU ABOUT THE DEMAND THEY'RE EXPERIENCING? THEIR READ ON THE CONSUMER AS WE CONTINUALLY SEE THAT CONSUMERS DON'T FEEL GREAT

ABOUT THE ECONOMY, THAT AFFORDABILITY IS A CHANNEL YET IN THE ECONOMIC DATA THINGS STILL SEEM TO BE HOLDING UP TO A LARGE EXTENT. WHAT'S THE REAL READ UNDERNEATH ON THE GROUND? SUZANNE: WE'RE HEARING WE DO HAVE DEMAND. WE'RE IN DALLAS WITH A BOOMING ECONOMY. PART OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS A LACK OF LABOR. A PROBLEM IN MINDING PEOPLE IN CONSTRUCTION AND THE SKILLED TRADES. AS YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES ARE REALLY PRACTICAL SO THEY DON'T TEND TO COME TO LUNCH AND TALK ABOUT PHILOSOPHY BUT THEY TALK ABOUT THE OBSTACLES, WHAT'S GETTING IN THEIR WAY AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET INTO THEIR COMMUNITIES. IT'S THAT BORING BUT IMPORTANT WORK THAT WOULD DRIVE DOWN THE THINGS OF COSTS OF HOUSING.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK TO BUSINESSES ABOUT THE CONSTRAINTS AND NOT GUESS. KAILEY: DATA CENTER ARE A MASSIVE QUESTION IN TEXAS RIGHT NOW JUST AS THEY WERE IN MANY PLACES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE CHAMBER PUT OUT AN ECONOMIC STUDY THIS WEEK ABOUT THE KIND OF JOBS THAT DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT CAN CREATE AND SUSTAIN. HOW DO YOU THINK DATA CENTERS AND THE OPERATORS AND BUILDERS OF THEM SHOULD BE WALKING THAT LINE WHEN THERE IS SO MUCH PUSHBACK TO THEIR CONSTRUCTION. WHAT IS THE ECONOMIC CASE FOR THEM TO BE BROUGHT TO COMMUNITIES? SUZANNE: I THINK THERE IS AN ECONOMIC CASE TO BE MADE BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN THESE COMMUNITIES.

THERE ARE STATE AND LOCAL AND REGIONAL CHAMBERS THAT ARE READY TO BE PARTNERS. TO HELP AND LISTEN TO COMMUNITIES' CONCERNS AND ADDRESS THEM. I DON'T THINK THIS IS A TOP-DOWN PUSH. I THINK THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT WANT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT WANT THE JOBS AND THE INNOVATION AND THEY NEED TO BE AT THE SAME TABLE WITH THESE ARRANGEMENTS. I THINK THE LOCAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCES ARE DOING THAT WELL SO THAT BOTH ARE SATISFIED. KAILEY: I WONDER WHAT YOU HEAR FROM BUSINESSES ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY ITSELF. ARE THEY LARGELY CONCERNED ABOUT AI AND THE CHANGES IT CAN BRING OR USING IT TO THEIR

BENEFIT? SUZANNE: NO, THEY'RE EXCITED. THEY THINK THIS IS A BOON TIME FOR THE UNITED STATES OF THE AMERICA AND THEY WANT TO BE PART TO HAVE IT. THIS STUDENT BODY HERE AT S.M.U. THESE KIDS ARE EXCITED AND OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE FUTURE. I'M DOWN HERE AT BARLEY GETTING A DOSE OF ENERGY. KAILEY: GREAT TO HAVE YOU THERE WITH THE STUDENTS AND I BELIEVE THE BUS BEHIND YOU. SUZANNE CLARK WITH THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US. THANKS SO MUCH. KAILEY: TEXAS IS AN AREA WITH SOME HOTLY CONTESTED RACES THIS CYCLE INCLUDING IN THE SENATE RACE AND PRESIDENT TRUMP IS STANDING BY HIS

REPUBLICAN NOMINEE RICK PAXTON. WE'LL DISCUSS UP NEXT ON "BALANCE OF POWER" ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO. KAILEY: THIS IS "BALANCE OF POWER" ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO. I'M KAILEY LEINZ. JOE MATHIEU HAS THE NIGHT OFF. BRENT CRUDE CROSSING BACK ABOVE 10 A BARREL FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE MAY. CONCERNS BEING FLAMED BY ONGOING CONFLICTS. HOUTHI REBELS CONTINUING TO HIT SENSITIVE TARGETS IN SAUDI ARABIA AND RUSSIA AND UKRAINE INTENSING THEIR ATTACKS ON ONE ANOTHER. NOW CONGRESS THREATENING TO

BLOCK PRESIDENT TRUMP'S DIESEL DEAL WITH RUSSIA THAT HE SAYS HAS ALREADY HELPED DIESEL PROBLEMS. WE GO TO KEVIN IN HOUSTON. WHAT WAS THE LEG UP TODAY? HOW ARE WE BACK AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS SINCE MAY? WHAT'S THE DRIVER? IT'S THE PROSPECTS FORTUNATE IMMINENT SUPPLY RELIEF IS DWINDLING. SEVERAL OF THE INITIATIVE THAT IS TRUMP ANNOUNCED TO TAME FUEL PRICES IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS ARE UNRAVELING. THE INTENDED CEASE-FIRE BETWEEN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE NEVER HAPPENED. THE DEAL WITH RUSSIA FOR MORE DIESEL AND NOW TALKING ABOUT RESUMING ATTACKS ON IRAN AFTER THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS WHILE IN

THE MEANTIME HOUTHIS CONTINUE TO ATTACK SAUDI ARABIA WITH MISSILES AND DRONES. THE MARKET HAS BEEN KEPT IN CHECK BY THE RELEASE OF FUELS FROM EMERGENCY AND STRATEGIC STOCKPILES AROUND THE WORLD BUT THIS CANNOT LAST FOREVER. THE C.E.O. OF EXXON AND CHEVRON HAVE WARNED THAT THE WORLD IS RUNNING OUT OF THESE STOCKPILES WHICH LIVES MARKETS MUCH MORE FULL INTERNATIONAL TO PRICE -- VULNERABLE TO PRICE SHOCKS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING AT THE MOMENT. AND THE LACK OF BUFFERS TO PROTECT AGAINST THESE SHOCKS. KAILEY: EXXON MIGHT BE WARNING ABOUT THAT BUT IN THE MEANTIME AREN'T THEY REAPING THE BENEFIT FROM IT?

ABSOLUTELY. THEY REPORTED A PROFIT OF SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDER OF $ $7.BILLION WHICH WOULD BE THE HIGHEST IN ON RECORD. EXXON SAID THEY HAVE INVESTED HEAVILY WHILE OTHERS HAVE STAYED AWAY. SO THEY'RE NOW REAPING THE REWARDS FOR STAYING THE COURSE. WHAT'S GOOD FOR EXXON IS NOT NECESSARILY GOOD FOR CONSUMERS, MANUFACTURERS, TRUCKERS, ANYONE SUFFERING FROM VERY HIGH GASOLINE AND DIESEL PRICES. FUEL PRICES ARE MUCH MORE INFLATIONARY THAN DISCREET ITEMS LIKE EGGS AND IPHONES BECAUSE THEY'RE PRIMARY THINGS THAT RIPPLE THROUGHOUT THE ECONOMY.

"C.E.O.'S ANNOUNCE THEIR EARNINGS OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT THEY DON'T GLOAT TOO MUCH ABOUT THESE EXCESS PROFITS. WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST COUNTRIES WHEN THEY SUFFER FROM HIGH OIL PRICES THEY HAVE TO TAKE OTHER MEASURES TO PROTECT CONSUMERS. KAILEY: AND WE KNOW SOME OF THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN FLOATED DURING THIS PERIOD. KEVIN CROWLEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE PRESIDENT OFTEN POINTS TO THE COUNTRY'S LONG HISTORY OF VOTING AGAINST THE POLITICAL PARTY IN POWER AS A REASON WHY REPUBLICANS MAY LOSE GROUND IN THIS YEAR'S MIDTERMS. WHILE IT IS TRUE, THEY ARE A CHANCE FOR VOTERS TO GIVE THE PRESIDENT A REPORT CARD.

THE PRESIDENT'S APPROVAL SIT AT A HISTORIC LOW WITH 64% DISAPPROVING OF HIS JOB IN OFFICE. LET'S SEND THESE LUNATICS BACK AND GOVERN OUR COUNTRY FOR THE FUTURE. CANDIDATES CROPS THE COUNTRY ARE FRAMING MIDTERM CONTESTS AROUND WHAT VOTERS OPPOSE RATHER THAN WHAT THEY SUPPORT. BECAUSE FOR THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS ALL THEY'VE DONE IS MADE THINGS WORSE FOR OHIOANS. POLITICAL SCIENTISTS LIKE STEVEN WEBSTER FROM INDIANA UNIVERSITY SAYS THAT HAS AMPLIFIED THE SENSE OF DISSATISFACTION AMONG THE ELECTORATE.

AMERICAN POLITICS INCREASINGLY IS DRIVEN BY WHO WE DISLIKE RATHER THAN WHO WE LIKE. AND A LOT OF MUFFIN IS GOING TOWARD FUELING THOSE FEELINGS. AN ANALYSIS SHOWS SPENDING BY OUTSIDE GROUPS LIKE SUPERPACS TOTALING: 612 MILLION IN SEPTEMBER. MORE THAN TRIPLE THE AMOUNT SENT OF POSITIVE MESSAGES. WE DO KNOW THAT THIS IS AN ELECTORATE WITH REMARKABLY LOW TRUST IN THE INSTITUTION BEHIND ME. A PEW RESEARCH CENTER SURVEY FROM THIS CENTER FOUND JUST 25% OF AMERICANS HELD A FAVORABLE VIEW OF CONGRESS, DOWN NINE PERCENTAGE POINTS IN THE LAST YEAR.

AND THAT SAME SURVEY POUND JUST 2535% OF REPUBLICANS HE WOULD CONGRESS FAVORABLY COMPARED TO 16% OF DEMOCRATS HOLDING A FAVORABLE VIEW. AMERICANS FEEL LAW MAKERS AREN'T BEING PRODUCTIVE ENOUGH. THE CURRENT CONGRESS HAS HAD THE FEWEST BILLS SIGNED INTO LAW IN 75 YEARS. THOUGH THAT GETS TORN BY A BIGGER TREND TOWARDS L BIGGER LEGISLATION. WE'RE SEEING A RISE IN ANGER AND SIMULTANEOUSLY SIGHING A DECREASE AND TRUST IN INSTITUTIONS ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. CANDIDATES WHO CAMPAIGN AGAINST WASHINGTON ITSELF, A FLASH MESSAGE THAT HELPED ELECT PRESIDENT TRUMP. WE'RE GOING TO CAST OUT THE CORRUPT POLITICAL CLASS.

THE PRIMARY SAW 13 INCUMBENTS FAIL TO SECURE RENOMINATION AS VOTERS REBUKED THE STATUS QUO. AN INSURGENCY OF PROGRESSIVE SUPPORT THOUGH BROOKINGS TEAM FOUND MAINSTREAM CANDIDATES ACTUALLY OUTPERFORMED CANDIDATES ON THEIR I IDEOLOGICAL THOUGHTS. TELLING US VOTERS HAVEN'T UNILATERALLY TURNED AWAY FROM CONVENTIONAL CANDIDATES NO MATTER HOW UNHAPPY THEY ARE. KAILEY: THANKS TO BLOOMBERG'S TYLER KENDALL. ONE OF THE KEY RACES WE'RE WATCHING IS IN TEXAS WHERE DEMOCRATIC SENATE CANDIDATE JAMES TALARICO IS TRYING TO FINALLY FLIP THE STATE POLL. THE LATEST MARIST POLL EARLY THIS WEEK PUT BOTH CANDIDATES TALARICO AND PAXTON IN A VIRTUAL TIE.

JOINING US IS THE CHAIR OF THE TEXAS DEMOCRATIC PARTY. WELCOME TO "BALANCE OF POWER." GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON THE PROGRAM. TEXAS DEMOCRATS HAVE GOTTEN THEIR HOPES UP IN PREVIOUS PSYCHLES. BETO O'ROURKE IN 2018 IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS ONE? KENDALL: THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON. I APPRECIATE IT. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS DIFFERENT. FIRST, WHEN I GOTREJECT WILLED CHAIRMAN LAST YEAR WE STARTED BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS THE STRAIGHT. WE'VE RECRUITED MORE THAN 1,000 PRECINCT CHAIRS. WE HAVE A REAL INFRASTRUCTURE APPARATUS OPERATING RIGHT NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN 2018. ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE IS THAT OUR WHOLE SLATE IS OPERATING TOGETHER AS A TEAM INSTEAD OF BELTO O'ROURKE WHO WAS KIND OF DOING THAT ON HIS OWN.

EVERYBODY COORDINATED ON THE PHONE CAMPAIGN FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1982. WE'RE ALL MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT IS NOT JUST JAMES TALARICO BUT EVERY STATEWIDE CANDIDATES WE HAVE IS FOLLOWING WITHIN THE MARGIN OF ERROR. WE'RE DOING THAT WE CAN TO BARNSTORM THE STATE AND FINALLY CARRY THIS ONE ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. KAILEY: YET YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FINANCIAL ADVANTAGE DESPITE INCREDIBLE FUNDRAISING NUMBERS PUT OUT YESTERDAY FOR THE THIRD QUARTER BY TALARICO. -- 64 MILLION, WHICH IS A RECORD FOR THAT PERIOD. THERE'S BEEN FAR MORE MONEY SPENT AGAINST HIM AND ON BEHALF OF KEN PAXTON.

HOW MUCH OF A HEAD WIND IS THAT FOR YOU? TEXAS DEMOCRATS ARE HUMAN SHIELDS RIGHT NOW FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. THE $250 MILLION THAT THEY'RE SPENDING TO HOLD ON WHAT USED TO BE THEIR BASTION OF SAFETY IS $250 MILLION NOT BEING SPENT IN MAINE, GEORGIA, OHIO, IOWA, KANSAS, ACTIONS. THESE PLACES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. WE'RE REALLY STANDING ON THE FRONT LINES HERE AND HOLDING OUR OWN. OUR GOVERNOR HAS DRAINED A 20 MILLION WAR CHEST AND ALL HE'S DONE IS MOVE BACKWARDS. IT SAYS A LOT, NUMBER ONE, ABOUT HOW POORLY THEY'VE RUN THE GOVERNMENT IN TEXAS FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS AND HOW BAD THE ECONOMY IS UNDER DONALD TRUMP.

INSTEAD OF THE DEMOCRATS RUNNING POINTING THEIR FINGERS AT THE OTHER GUY AND TALKING ABOUT HOW BAD THEY ARE, THEY'RE WE'RE COMING TO THE TABLE WITH OUR OWN SOLUTIONS. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE YOUR SCHOOLS DON'T GET THEIR DOORS SHUT DOWN. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THE BEST FUNDED SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTRY THE LAST TIME DEMOCRATS RAN THE COUNTRY. ABOUT YOU SEEING A DOCTOR NOT WHEN YOU GET SICK BUT BEFORE YOU GET SICK. WHEN YOU BRING THOSE HOPEFUL PLANS TO PEOPLE INSTEAD OF JUST ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT HOW BAD THE OTHER SIDE IS, I THINK RESONATES WITH PEOPLE. WE'LL SEE IN NOVEMBER IF IT PAYS OFF. KAILEY: SPEAKING OF THINGS BEING PAID.

ELON MUSK IS POURING AN INORDINATE AMOUNT INTO TEXAS. HE'S GO FAITHED SOME 50 MILLION PLUS INTO THE SENATE LEADERSHIP PACT. BASICALLY ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN FUNNELED TO TEXAS. ELON MUSK, OF COURSE, HAS A LARGE VESTED INTEREST IN TEXAS. I WONDER WHAT YOU WOULD TELL ELON MUSK WHETHER HE HAS ANYTHING TO FEAR SHOULD MORE ADAPTS GET POWER IN TEXAS. CLEARLY HE THINKS REPUBLICANS WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO HIM AND HIS BUSINESS AND HIS MONEY IS SHOWING THAT. DEMOCRATS BUILT THE TEXAS MIRACLE THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE SPENT THE LAST 30 YEARS TRYING TO TEAR APART. WHEN DEMOCRATS GET ELECTED WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT TO MAKE SURE HE CAN'T BUY ELECTION, AND FIGHT TO INSTILL REAL FINANCE

CAMPAIGN REFORM THAT STOPS PEOPLE LIKE MUSK FROM PUMPING 60 MILLION INTO A SINGLE RACE. BASICALLY HE'S KEN PAXTON'S ONLY FUNDER TO THESE DAYS. HE'S A CROOK AND EVERYBODY KNOWS HIM. THIS TRILLION THEIR IS PROPPING HIM UP WITH THESE GIANT DONATIONS. IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS WHO WANT TO HAVE A FAIR FIGHT. IF DEMOCRATS WIN, YOU CAN EXPECT TEXAS DEMOCRATS TO PUSH LEGISLATION TO MAKE SURE THAT ELON MUSK CAN'T BUY OUR GOVERNMENT ANYMORE. KAILEY: I WANT TO ASK ABOUT SOME COMMENTS WE GOT FROM THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE MIKE JOHNSON WHO MADE A TRIP TO TEXAS THIS WEEK. HE TALKED ABOUT SOUTH TEXAS ESSENTIALLY BEING THE DECIDER OF WHO CONTROLS TEXAS. AND LATINO VOTERS WHO BROKE FOR

TRUMP IN 2024 AND WHEN OF WHO REPUBLICANS HAD IN MIND WHEN THEY REDREW THE CONGRESSIONAL MAPS IN TEXAS. WE'VE SEEN THEM SWING BACK TOWARDS MORE DEMOCRATIC THIS TERM. EVEN IF YOU CAN GET THEM IN 2026, HOW DO YOU KEEP THEM? I BELIEVE THE HISPANIC DEMOGRAPHIC IN TEXAS IS THE SHOW-ME DEMOGRAPHIC. THEY TOLD PERSPECTIVE TRUMP SHOW ME AND THEY GAVE HIM A CHANCE. HE EXPLOITED THEIR LABOR, PREYED ON THEIR FEARS. USED THEM AS A MEANS TO AN END AND THEN DISCARDED THEM. IF WE ARE SO LUCKY AS TO HAVE EARNED THEIR SUPPORT THIS CYCLE, SHOW THEM. PEOPLE WANT THEM TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THEM THAT ONLY SERVES THE OWN OTHERS AND

DONORS AND NOT THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THE HELP. IN SOUTH TEXAS WE ARE ECONOMICALLY IMPACTED BY TARIFFS PUSHED THROUGH BY DONALD TRUMP AND BY THE REIGN OF TERROR OF ISLES ON THESE COMMUNITIES. THESE FOLKS ARE BUSINESS OWNERS, ECONOMIC ENGINES AND TO TREAT THEIR COMMUNITIES AS IF THEY ARE LESS THAN OR THAT THEY DON'T BELONG HERE. IT'S NOT THE TEXAS WAY OF REPORTERRING OPERATING. WE ARE A MAJORITY-MINORITY STATE HERE IN TEXAS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN GO TO OKLAHOMA. WHEN WE WIN, IF DEMOCRATS DON'T DELIVER IN A BIG WAY ECONOMICALLY, IT'S OUR OWN FAULT FOR LOSING THAT DEMOGRAPHIC AND I'M THEORY ENSURE WE DON'T LOSE THAT SO WE CAN EARN THEIR LONG-TERM

SUPPORT. KAILEY: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. STILL AHEAD, THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS PODIUM IS EMPTY ONCE AGAIN. KATIE ZACHARIA IS OUT AS PRESS SECRETARY AFTER JUST FIVE DAYS ON JOB. WE'LL DRIVE INTO IT NEXT ON "BALANCE OF POWER" ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO. I AM SO HONORED TO WORK FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AS THE NEW WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY. MY GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THAT IN COMPLETE TANDEM WITH THE PRESIDENT AS HE IS HIS OWN BEST SPOKESPERSON WILL ABSOLUTELY BE LEADING THE

WAY WITH THAT. HE HAD AN HISTORIC ONE-DAY WAR AND NOW WE HAVE A BOOMING ECONOMY AND A GREAT RHYTHM WITH VENEZUELA. HAS THE U.S. STOPPED SHARING INTEL WITH UKRAINE? I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT. WE HAVE ASKED AMBASSADOR GUILFOYLE TO RESIGN. THE IDEA OF NOT SPENDING EX-WITHMY KIDS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE SO MY PRESIDENT -- EXCUSE ME, HUSBAND. I AM GOING TO END IT BUZZ PERSPECTIVE TRUMP IS HEADING OUT TO MARINE 1 FOR AN HISTORIC TRIP TO ACTIONS AND WE CAN ASK HIM ALL OF THE QUESTIONS OUT THERE SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

KAILEY: THIS IS "BALANCE OF POWER" ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO. I'M KAILEY LEINZ AND THAT WAS THE FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY KATIE ZACHARIA. SHE WAS OUSTED TODAY FROM HER JOB AFTER JUST FIVE JOBS ON IT. JOINING US FOR MORE IS OUR POLITICAL PANEL. DIPLOMATIC PANEL JEANNE AND LANHEE CHEN, FORMER ADVISOR TO MARKO RUBIO. WELCOME TO YOU BOTH. SHE, IN THAT PRESS CONFERENCE, WHICH SHE STRUGGLED THROUGH IN PARTS TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO AMPLIFY THE MESSAGE OF THE PRESIDENT. IF SHE'S KNOT GOING TO BE IN THIS ROLE DOING THAT, DO YOU EXPECT THAT THE PRESIDENT IS

ABLE TO DO THAT ON HIS OWN WITH 1 DAYS UNTIL THE MIDTERMS? I THINK IN AN IDEAL WORLD HE NAMES A REPLACEMENT. THE PROBLEM THAT THE FORMER WHITE HOUSE SECRETARY RAN INTO IS THAT SHE BECAME THE STORY, SHE BECAME THE MESSAGE AND THAT'S NEVER GOOD. AS A STAFFER HAVING BEEN A STAFFER, YOU NEVER WANT TO BE THE PERSON STANDING IN THE WAIL BETWEEN A STORY AND YOUR PRINCIPAL. THIS IS A CHALLENGE BUT WE'RE IN A CRITICAL FACE. THE PRESIDENT NEEDS SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ADMINISTRATION, ON HIS BEHALF WHOM HE TRUSTS. KAILEY: ANY IDEA WHO THAT KIND OF PERSON MIGHT BE?

I DO. I THINK RACHEL CAM POLES DUFFY -- CAMPOS DUFFY, THE WIFE OF SEAN DUFFY, THE TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY. A FOX NEWS HOST. I THINK SHE WAS ON THE SHORT LIST BEFORE AND SHE WOULD BE AN INTERESTING CHOICE. I SYMPATHY STEVEN CHEUNG, THE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR WOULD BE A REALLY INTERESTING CHOICE. I HAVE OTHER ONES IN MIND AS WELL. I THINK HE HAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE BUT REALLY HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO WEIGH THESE OPTIONS BECAUSE THE LAST TIME HE DID THIS, IT DIDN'T GO VERY WELL. KAILEY: IT WAS STRIKING TO HEAR THE PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT KATIE ZACHARIA NOT OUTRIGHT SUGGESTING HE WAS GOING TO FIRE HER. HE WAS MUCH MORE STRIDENT ABOUT SUSIE WILES BECAUSE THERE WERE RUMORS IN POLITICO THIS WEEK.

HE SAID UNEQUIVOCALLY THERE'S ZERO CHANCE HE FIRES UP. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT? I DO. SUSIE WILES HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO THE PRESIDENT, TO THE FUNCTIONING OF GOVERNMENT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT SHE'S BEEN A FORCE FOR GOOD IN THAT WHITE HOUSE AND PLAYED A REALLY IMPORTANT ROLE. I THINK IT'S THE CASE THAT THE PRESIDENT PROBABLY ASKS AROUND ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR HIM BUT FUNDAMENTALLY HE KNOWS THE VALUE THAT SUSIE WILES BRINGS AND I THINK SHE'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO THAT OPERATION. KAILEY: DO YOU THINK SHE'S AS CRITICAL IN A SCENARIO IN WHICH DEMOCRATS HAVE PARTIAL OR FULL CONTROL OF CONGRESS AND IMP IMPEACHMENTS?

NEIGHBOR MACHINE VALUABLE BECAUSE SHE'S HAS EVERYONE'S TRUST ASK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT DURING THIS TIME OF DEMOCRAT INVESTIGATIONS AND SUBPOENAS FLYING FROM CAPITOL HILL. KAILEY: SUZY WILES WAS AN HISTORIC CHOICE TO BE CHIEF OF STAFF. THE FIRST WOMAN TO EVER DO IT AT THE WHITE HOUSE BUT IT STRIKES ME THAT OTHER WOMEN ARE THE ONES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ZACHARIA HAS LEFT, KRISTI NOEM. PAM BONDY, TULSI GABBARD ALTHOUGH THAT HAD MORE TO DO WITH HER HUSBAND'S HEALTH. AALL THE DEPARTURES HAVE BEEN WOMEN. IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS THE DEPARTURES WE HAVE SEEN HAVE BEEN OVERWHELMING THE FEMALE APPOINTEES, THE FEMALE STATUE

AND THAT IS A TROUBLING REALITY. IN TERMS OF SUSIE WILES, SHE IS AN HISTORIC CHOICE. ALSO SOMEONE WHO HAS UNFORTUNATELY BEEN DEALING WITH A HEALTH ISSUE BUT I DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE A VERY DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT FOR THIS WHITE HOUSE OR JANUARY WHEN YOU HAVE A DEMOCRATIC HOUSE IT LOOKS LIKE AND NEIGHBOR EVEN A SENATE. AND THE PRESIDENT MAY WANT SOMEBODY IN THAT POSITION WHO KNOWS CONGRESS VERY WELL. SUSIE WILES IS AN INCREDIBLY GIFTED VINYL. SHE IS FROM FLORIDA. HER WORK HAS PRIMARILY BEEN IN THE CAMPAIGN SECTOR AND IN FLORIDA. HE MIGHT WANT SOMEBODY WHO'S BETTER ABLE TO MANAGE WHEN THEY SAY THEMMINGS IS GOING TO BE A BEVY OF INVESTIGATIONS AND MAYBE EVEN AN IMPEACHMENT DOWN

THE ROAD. KAILEY: PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TRYING TO ENSURE THAT REPUBLICANS MAINTAIN THE MAJORITY. HE'S BEEN CRISSCROSSING THE COUNTRY. IS HE HELPING THE CASE RIGHT NOW? I THINK IN THE STATES HE'S GOING TO BECAUSE IT'S A TURNOUT GAME AND IF REPUBLICANS ARE NOT TURNING OUT, THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN WINSOME OF THESE RACES THAT ARE CLOSE. THERE IS NO GREATER PROMOTER OF REPUBLICAN TURNOUT THAN PRESIDENT TRUMP SO HIS ROLE IN TERMS OF GETTING PEOPLE OUT, HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND THE STAKES IN CONTROL OF THE SENATE ESPECIALLY, I THINK THE HOUSE IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.

I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE PRESIDENT TO DRIVE THAT TURNOUT. NOW, IF HE GOES TO MAINE AND ACTIONS IT'S A D. STORY. HE DID GO TO ACTIONS. SO THERE IT'S OBVIOUSLY A TURNOUT STORY BUT SOME OF THESE OTHER STATES IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A QUESTION MARK. KAILEY: I GUESS THE QUESTION WITH GEORGIA IS IF WE THINK THAT MIKE COLLINS STANDS A CHANCE IN UNSEATING JON OSSOFF BASED ON THE POLLS AND ALSO THE FINANCIAL ADVANTAGE OSSOFF HAS. INCREDIBLE FINANCIAL ADVANTAGE FOR OSOFF. I AGREE THAT NOBODY IS BETTER THAN TRUMP AT DRIVING TURNOUT. BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE GOVERNOR'S RACE THERE AND YOU HAVE THE REPUBLICAN AHEAD WITHIN THE MAR JIB OF ERROR SO HE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP THERE BUT I SAY MAY

BECAUSE HE HAS A HABIT OF NOT STAYING ON MEN. HE WAS TALKING TO THE VOTERS OF MONTANA AND TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY EXECUTING PEOPLE WHO RELEASE INFORMATION. HE'S CONSISTENTLY TOLD VOTERS LIKE IN ARIZONA THAT THE ECONOMY ASK THE BEST THEY'VE EVER LIVED THROUGH, THE BEST HE'S EVERY SEEN. THAT IS NOT THE MESSAGE HE NEEDS TO HAVE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. KAILEY: WE'LL SEE WHAT MESSAGES MESSAGE HE BRINGS TO STATES COMING UP. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. IF YOU NEED REEDING OVER THE WEEKEND, CHECK OUT THE WASHINGTON EDITION NEWSLETTER. ON THE TERMINAL AND ONLINE.

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