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Yesterday was a really uh interesting experience. The show was extraordinary in that I just thought, you know what? Um enough of that. Um and none of us, and I know you will be the same, none of us condone what we saw in Belfast, that is impossible and wrong and counterproductive. But I totally get, don't you, the reasons why people think we didn't vote for this. We don't agree with this. We've tried to peacefully protest for this. No bloody politician seems to be listening to us, Ila. Yeah, the problem with the riots is um is that it allows the political class to deflect and just talk about the riots as opposed to the issue at hand. Um no, of
course I condone it. It's it's terrible and especially when you see those houses being fired, but people have had enough. I've had enough. I'm like, for God's sake, literally, how many of these incidents? How many young girls have to be raped? How many people have to be stabbed, killed by an illegal immigrant for the political class to suddenly sit and say, you know what, we have to do whatever it takes. I don't know. I don't know what is the tipping point. Well, you think back, somebody said to me yesterday, I for me the tipping point was, you know, years ago, but we've had over 40,000 illegal migrants arrive over the
past 12 months. Yeah. Itraa, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iran, and when are we going to say enough? 40,000 potential other men like the guy we saw in Belfast, rapists, Muslim Brotherhood terrorists, IRG, we just don't know. And you know what? You'll get exactly what I got yesterday and what Nigel will no doubt get for being on at 8:00. People will say, and they said it online about me yesterday, well, that's far right. That's that's racist. These people are coming from war torn countries. Let's get this absolutely straight. If you and I said it yesterday and it got amazing response because actually we should be in the business should we not of telling the truth. If you let unfeted men into your country, not women and children, Darren Bloody
Jones, men of fighting age who actually let's forget that who come from a culture about their futures and their kids futures. I don't know what that is. Get to the ballot box. Don't know where that came from. Don't worry about that. who come into this country, right? They have none of our values. They don't speak our language. They don't adhere to our law. In fact, so barbaric are the things that they find normal that you end up with scenarios like you did the other night in Belfast where a man is being potentially beheaded where in Bournemouth where I live down by a girl
is taken onto a beach and raped by two migrants who've been here 3 weeks and they're let off because apparently it would be too dangerous for them to go home. Yesterday, the 16-year-old enticed on Snapchat from her home in Somerset to Bristol by four Afghanis who pied her with drink and drugs and raped her. How long do we have to bring up Lee Riby, the Manchester Arena bombings, Henry Novak, the Southport murders, all of it. And no government, it seems, will have the balls to tell us why it's happening or how they're going to stop it. And that is why people I agree with you entirely that is why people are so frustrated.
I mean because and what's really fascinating is that the Westminster bubble heard Nigel after Novak say the word rage and they were horrified. You know the political class responded by literally having a national debate about that one word instead of a national debate about two-tier policing and how there are too many illegal migrants in our country. You know, they're literally having a completely different conversation to the country. Why? You know, say the house is united in condemnation of Nigel's reaction.
No, the that's the problem. They're united, but not people, they treat public anger as something that's created by politicians somehow, but people are so angry. Uh Jeremy, and you know what was interesting? uh yesterday I think I think he's the head of like some terrorist government body or something anti-terrorist and he finally said what we've been saying for years right that the men coming in are a national security risk yeah Jonathan Hall absolutely sorry and I was thinking now that he's said it right the expert or someone from government it's no longer racist to say you know absolutely and also legitimize that argument whereas the whole public saying it were all divisive and you can't say it and that's
What annoys people is that we have to be told how to think. We have to be given permission to be angry or notice what we see with our very own eyes. It's a really interesting point that you make actually and I'm really glad nobody's made that at all which is that when Nigel said what he said there was then a national debate in the mainstream media and in a lot of the press saying [snorts] this is outrageous. This [clears throat] isn't right. This isn't fair. A survey overnight, a survey overnight, an opinion poll says that one in three Britons now believe that police treat ethnic minorities more favorably than white people. So if your job as a politician is to have your finger on the pulse of what's happening, then I would
suggest that Farage was spot on last week, then of course the Tories have also said that. But no action from our government. No sort of Do you know what the action is, Jeremy? Have you seen the latest action? Oh god, go on. Oh no, no, they don't want to fix the boats. They don't want to stop the boats or stop crime or add more police. No. Now they are. So remember when the online safety bill came out, I was accused siding with when I said it is not about children. It is about censorship. I was accused by Labor and Conservatives of siding with children. Do you remember
when Jeremy Kyle said Nigel is siding with Jimmy Savile type people? You just said Jeremy Kyle. Oh, sorry. Um what's his name? Peter Kyle. Um Oh god, no. I've been called a labor minister. Oh god. Well, well, now they're saying that they are going to use the online safety bill to censor content during civil unrest. We warned them. I mean that civil unrest I would say is when I need to know all the information because I know the mainstream media is not reporting it. But that's going to use the online safety that is how they're reacting. They're not trying to fix it. They're reacting so we don't get any information and we can't speak to each other. It's it's it's so you know some of the people that phone this show
and this station in their entirety will talk Ila about how you know they're bit conspiratorial and they'll say the government wants this unrest so they can instigate even greater controls over this that there's this undocumented plan and I mean I can't even give that brain space because that doesn't sit in my head at all. What I know is what I want is what I think a majority of people want in this country is honesty, common sense. Uh acceptance of you know, you stand up and say it as it is. There'll be things that work right and things that don't. Not to cloud the issue. I'm still m I still maintain that with Southport it suited his narrative star to keep quiet
that it wasn't an illegal migrant so he could crack down and call everybody far right. But those excuses, those days, I think they're gone. I think we're past politicians just saying our far right they're thugs just get rid of them all. I think there are I mean this wasn't documented but it should have been. There were thousands who turned up in Belfast not last night the night before who were peacefully protesting as they did in Eping. The wonderful pink ladies saying our daughters are in danger here. We're not racists. We're not far right. We're just concerned mothers. We're concerned villagers. What's wrong with that? Nothing.
Yeah. I mean, listen, and he always uses the full force of the law against protesters. I don't see him using the full force of the law against every other crime uh that's committed. But on a fundamental level, uh I'm really angry because right now we cannot tell how many extremists we have on our streets, right? We can't uh the government can't tell you who's entering the country. They can't even control who enters our country. And so as a result, there is no way that this government can control the safety of the people already here. You can't because a country that doesn't know who's coming in, we don't know what risks.
Isn't that the first premise of a government to protect its people? So for me, it's an illegitimate government. Yeah. Your the first duty of any government is to keep us safe and they have this [clears throat] and the previous they have fundamentally failed. If I'm speaking out of turn, stop me. You've got a personal story, haven't you? Are you prepared to share that as to why you're so frightened about what's happening certainly on the streets of London? Well, yeah. I mean, my son was a victim of knife crime. Um, and my other son was and there was no police and that's potentially one of the reasons why I came um into politics, but well, they were threatened with knives.
Well, he the guy had a knife and went up to him in sainsburries and said, "Give me your phone." and showed him the knife and um forced him to walk with him for 15 minutes until I mean I kidnapped him really until the phone cleared and my son said, "Mom, I thought he was going to bundle me up in the boot of a car and kill me." Um and by the way, this happened under my house and the guy was local. That's the scary thing. It wasn't, you know, was heaugh. Huh? He was caught. And what happens is he's caught and he pleads not guilty because and I say this to every victim, victims don't tend to turn up because they're scared. They don't want to relive it. My son did not want to go
to that trial. He really didn't. There was another time where they were targeted with masked [clears throat] um men. Then the police did nothing. I had to do everything. But this is another time and I had to force him to go to the courts and he didn't want to go. But if he didn't go, that guy would have gotten off. And I can see why victims don't want to go, especially children. But the whole case relies on the live uh account of the victim. When you look at, you know, a lot of people will say, [clears throat] "Oh, you know, it would be nice to tune in and get something different." I know the feeling, but we're talking about what's going on the streets of our country in its entirety. Um whether it's
rioting in Belfast or your story there. I know you're standing to be the mayor. My daughter was sexually approached by someone in Starbucks. Again, under my house, a foreign guy, you know, sexually. She was studying for her exam. She was sexually approached and it's constant, Jeremy. It's when you have when I you know, I'm lucky to have so many teenagers, but you know, it's it's a constant onslaught of random. How do you clear that up? Genu genuine question. have you became aware of that and I held him down until the police came. Um, but you know, luckily my kids are street smart just from having to grow up with this. But that's why I just I feel like if
you do the right if you're if you do the right thing, you pay your taxes, you go to work, the system crushes you every day. They don't let you get away with anything. If you're a criminal, you get away with it. And that's what frustrates people. It's a warped system. It's not Nigel used a phrase I use every It's not fair. It doesn't seem balanced. It doesn't seem fair. It doesn't seem just. It doesn't seem right. If you're listening to this and you maybe you're on the trip from work to whatever
you're doing, I speak to people every day, Ila, who will say sort of have always lived my life correctly and I'm beginning to wonder why. I've sort of always tried to do the right thing. So then of course it spills over into what we're seeing in Belfast. None of us condone that. and it's led by the moronic minority who do nothing for the bigger issue. But it then masks and hides the fact that frustration is palpable. And if you have, as I said at the beginning, voted against immigration and spent years not believing it's going to be anything other than destructive, you feel like you're not being listened to, right?
100%. I mean, you know, while this was all going on, while my kids were being targeted by gangs in Balaclavas, um I remember I got like an Amazon package and I put it in a public bin. I got a letter to be prosecuted by the council for using, you know, Jesus. I was like, that's what I mean. It crushes you. Where's the pro? Well, you love today's story then, which I'm sure you've heard, right? Uh, just imagine you are an illegal migrant, right? Okay. and you break into this country and I'm your border force immigration official and you come up to my desk and you're trying to work out how to con according to government
sources uh if I am wearing uh a Union Jack badge tie or socks as Nigel's wearing today that might intimidate you and you could sue me and we'll pay for the lawyer. What a load of honestly mate I don't get it. I don't understand. I don't get it either. I really in one hand you could be really kind and say we are such a tolerant and kind country soft you know but it's it's and you can admire that you know we but it's at the detriment of us you know it's destroying the country it really is the destroying the fundamental fabric of our country because I've always known Britain to be a very tolerant and accepting country but right now you feel that being tolerant and accepting is almost like
national suicide. Well, it's interesting what you say about tolerance and accepting and morally the leader and all that. That's what people are fed up with later. They're fed up. They feel that for years of being not forced, but actually from birth doing the right thing, believing in the right things, behaving in the right way has got us where to a situation where illegals get treated better than we do. And to be fair, several of us have been saying this for two or three years and have been branded everything you could be branded. But now people are saying maybe that's truthful.
Um really appreciate it. Um just also very quickly I should ask you I tried to ask you that terrible story about your kids. How do you cure that if you ever became London Mayor? Visible policing. I don't see one police officer where I live. I mean I have a very high crime rate where I live. Visible policing. Police stations. I've actually spoken to a lot of people that own shops, empty shops, you know, to have pop-up police stations, especially if there's a spate of crime happening. Um, we don't have any of that. Also, there's got to be a zero
tolerance approach. So, I think people don't know there is mandatory sentencing for the second time. That's also national legislation. For the second time, you get caught with a knife. But I've stood in court there where you're meant to get um six months, but it's always suspended. Sorry, I could never be London Mayor. It would increase stop and search dramatically. And if you found with a knife, I put you in jail for 5 years and you'd serve all five years cuz I'd build more prisons because the message would become very clear. There's no amnesty. There's no apology.
You know what's interesting? You mentioned stop and search, but it was Theresa May who drastically. Absolutely. And bad night yesterday saying they should re increase it. Absolutely. I completely get you. There is a direct correlation between a reduction in stop and search and an increase in knife crime. Massive correlation. and it's a fundamental betrayal because the injustice is not being searched. The injustice is being stabbed when it could have been stopped. Completely agree. Great to have you on. Um bless you. This lady's got been on the school run and still managed to do this. You're an amazing lady.
