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the Vive ad with Amy Actton who is his opponent in Ohio. The race is she's getting elite in a big way and all of a sudden we're like okay October surprise let's play a clip and the clip that they wanted to put up was Amy Actton's mom his opponent telling the world about the true Amy Actton and then afterwards hell broke loose. Watch this video. Go for it. My name is Donna Arthur and I'm Amy Actton's mother. I worked at Children and Family Service Association building one of the first two sexual abuse programs in America. I love my daughter, but when I saw her lying about her
opponent, it's not easy for a mother to say this, but Amy has a serious problem. She is a liar. She lies about her past. She says she grew up living in a tent. None of that is true. She's lied her entire life. My daughter needs help and she can't help you if she needs help herself. People can change, but first they have to tell the truth. And my daughter still isn't doing that. Don't vote for people who lie. Don't let her become your governor. Wow. If you think she'll make your life better, you're fooling yourself.
You can pause it right there, by the way. So brutal, brutal ad from your mom about you. Think about how painful that would be. So before we go judging whether this is a good ad or not, let's just see how data would show. So if it was a good ad, it's fair to say gamblers and betterers and people that are like, well, I would bet on, you know, the language. I would bet my is going to lose. I would bet Viv's going to lose. I bet this ad's going to help Vive. Okay, so let's go look at the numbers of the day it was released. So October 18th, beautiful day, it was released this video at on that day, Amy Actton was at 70%, Vive was at 30% on Cali with $4.2 million that Amy was winning. So if the ad was a good ad,
that 70% would become 55%, and the 30% would become 45%. But let's see what happens. Go for it. Instead, Amy's chances goes from 70% to 81% plus minus of 11. That's the only way a marketing is going to judge it. Rorowaz, you know, or how much the CAC is or any of this data, a data person's going to look at this. Now, few things that you got to be thinking about on what happened. JD Vance has responded to this. Uh Trump's responded to this. Here's what the vice president had to say. JD, when asked, this was his college roommate. Uh they were friends in college and I even believe he named his son after Vive. If I'm not mistaken, JD's son's name is Vive. If you have
JD's clip, he was asked about this. on the ad and his response was not, "Hey, I like the ad or I don't like the ad." This is what JD had to say about the ad. Go for it. Vive Ramaswami's campaign put out a controversial ad featuring his opponent's mother Republicans. Some are backing away from that. Do you think that ad was appropriate? Well, I'll be honest with you. Whether the ad was appropriate or not is not really my concern. What is my concern is who is going to govern the next generation of American uh government. Who is going to win the Senate race in
the state of Ohio? Who's going to win the governor's race in the state of Ohio? And I got to be honest that when I see Republicans, people in my party reacting so strongly, especially elected officials, look, have the opinion you want to have on that ad. If you think it was too tough, say it was too tough. If you think it wasn't tough enough, say that. But I have to admit that I'm a little bit disgusted when I see Republicans across the country who are whining more about that advertisement than they are about what the congressional Democrats and other Democrats want to do to the United States. So, we already see where this goes. It's tough. It's a tough listen. I'm telling
you, it's hard to listen to this, right? And uh JD is one of the better talented guys. And then the story comes about because Amy responds and she says the story comes out that at 9 years old, she was both sexually and physically abused by her mother's husband, second husband, not her father, her stepfather. She was abused and the mother sided with the ex-husband uh the husband and she walk she loses custody of her daughter. And this is somebody that the mother said she worked at two sexual abuse programs where she worked at. That's what she did for a living. The only daughter that she wouldn't protect is her own daughter. If you think about that story, right? Vive responds back, you know, doubling down.
Hey, we did this and he did say we did not pay her. Uh, is this Vive talking about Amy? Go ahead and play this clip. Go forward. We have a chance to elect a governor who I hope I'll lay it out for you. a positive vision for our state versus a governor who has none at all other than to complain about what someone else did to her. That is the choice we face. Okay, so Tom, now that we've heard it all and Trump also uh came up and look, the reality of it is Ohio is a better state with a man like Vive running the state than Amy Actton. That's not the debate here. No one's sitting here debating that Vive is not more
qualified, smart business. He's going to lower taxes. These are the ideas that he has in place. Purely policy to policy. Okay. This is not a policy to policy conversation. This is October surprise ad. Was this an effective ad? Is it going to work? Is it not going to work, Tom? Well, this was a misdirected effort. And what was misdirected about it is that, you know, I just don't think they did full diligence, Pat. I mean, I'm stunned. I'm literally stunned. If they had did full diligence and found
out that this woman has been estranged for 50 years from her daughter, no one's disputing that fact, by the way, uh that Amy was a victim of abuse at 9 years old. N years old. That's just that just is crushing to me. And so I don't think it was good diligence. And then you don't think they knew? I if they knew and they ran it, they deserve the worst loss in the history of American role play. Do you think there was a conversation of guys, should we go with this or not? What's the worst case, best case scenario? This is a guy that built a company and he's a pretty wealthy guy.
Do you not think you're going to make a datadriven decision? Is this going to land with the audience or not? Do you not think they have that conversation with some smart people in the room? Yes, I absolutely do. And in my career, I've listened to my people around me. I've asked all the questions I can ask. And then something horrible happens. And then I come back and it's like, okay, I'm on the hook, guys. I said yes, I green lit it, but this is where it went. And I've had to let people go over things like that because, you know, you as a leader, Pat, you can listen to your people. You can ask the questions about it. You can do all those things, but at the end of the day, you make the call.
and something like this comes up and it's devastating. What was devastating to me is that the president came in to defend. The president was trying to help. The president was saying, "Here goes the media again." And when Donald Trump was saying that, he was right. But then later we find out all of this, Trump wouldn't have said that after he would have sat there and says, "Can somebody please tell me, you know, what happened here?" Because he's trying to come out and defend a candidate and defend a governorship in Ohio. do the things he's supposed to do that. He should do it. He's supposed to be a king. And by the way, I am just struggling with this. And I can see Trump in the Oval Office right now breaking chairs
because I'd be breaking chairs if I came out and then I'm like, "Wait a minute. I supported you. You didn't check on H." It's just horrible. And when I look at this, you can see how fast it went. If we could go back to the couch sheet real quick and just put on one week and look how steep it was. people like you and me that are out there with a one week. Let's look at this. This thing just goes in hours. It's a 10point swing in a matter of hours. 72 hours, 96 hours. This thing swings. So this was this what the October surprise was is VC Ramaswami
just stepped on a rake and the surprise hit him in the face. And I and VC's a friend, you know, but I you look at this and say, you know what, not this way. And look at all the people that got caught up into it. I'm I'm really I'm disappointed and I'm frustrated. And I'll tell you, I don't support Amy. I don't support her policies. I don't think she's the right choice for governor. But I'll tell you, to suddenly have that situation from when you're 9 years old, abused by your stepfather, thrown back into like this, man, that's dirty pool. Yeah. uh everything Tom said I it's also her brother as far as I know has corroborated her story. So it's not just her saying it. There's another family member who's there's another family
member who's corroborating uh what happened joining the mom or joining No joining her. Okay. And so uh it's just disturbing. It's a it's bad taste. No American like this is just a demonstration of how dirty politics has become. I think Americans are tired of it. I think it's just it's dishonest. Well, let me ask you this question. Here's a question for you. if Trump was running. Okay, go let's go to different personalities on how is this a this wouldn't work with anybody or it doesn't land with Vic. So let me give you the different people. So imagine you're Hillary Clinton going against Trump. Okay. And a story like this comes for Hillary Clinton and Trump has it similar to what happened to Amy Actton. Hillary
Clinton went through hypothetically. Flip it. Similar to what happened to Amy Actton, Trump went through. Who would this ad have worked with that if they played it would have had a positive effect on him or negative? Or is it no matter who the candidate was, this would have not worked for them? Cuz remember Hershel Walker, the son came out, said something negative about him. You got the 47 second thing with John Kerry. You got the George Bush senior that went against Dukakus and the whole, you know, uh, well, he kind of ruined it for himself. You have the grab him by the, you know, the Bush with Trump. So, I'm asking a very interesting question here. I want to see what you think about. Could anybody have
launched this video, it worked positively than negatively, especially Trump. So, my personal take on it is because of the nature of the allegation of uh abuse to a 9-year-old. I think it's it's not going to work for anybody with anybody. I personally don't. Do you understand what I'm asking? on because some like for instance what's every a lot of people are trying to be when Obama's like I remember a guy that would try to speak like this one guy at the previous company we were a part of he couldn't do it he sucked but that guy was a phenomenal speaker but when Obama's president people try to talk like Obama of course if you think about a lot of people who are in their 70s and 80s you know who they talk like Johnny
Carson why because you watch Johnny Carson some speak like Letterman some speak like you see the different era of comedians when they come up so a lot of people are like well I'm going to feel like Trump, but you either are Trump or you're not Trump. Do you think Vive is trying to kind of do that or he's always been a good speaker and he's always been that since he was a kid when he did the validictorian speech, but he if you guys cuz we went to the debates, he sounded and there's clips of he sounded like Obama and don't get me wrong, he tried to have the attitude of Trump, but it doesn't mind you in the amazing uh debater. But what I think people are failing, and you nailed it, Elon, politics is a dirty game. And like
especially with this month leading up to the midterms, they're spending millions and million like tens of millions of dollars on these ads and everything like that. But as a conservative, I don't like that take. And like I totally believe that there was a meeting and they're in there, but if you guys are looking at the numbers, even if it was a 10-point swing, Tommy, he's losing horribly. Yes. Hor 7030. I don't care if it's 8020. you're not going to win. And this is like a hailmary last ditch effort. But let's not forget why he's there, Pat. I think one of the main reasons because VC was on fire at a point. But in December 2024 when he said, "Our
American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long. You're going to crap on Americans and basically say our culture doesn't prioritize academic excellence enough and argued, you know, why tech companies recruit overseas and stuff." You crap on Americans and Americans are listening, bro. That's a big example, Tommy, of Americans going, "No, no, no, no, bro. We're not going to do it. I'm 100% anti- this, you know, October surprise, Hail Mary, somebody's mother. I don't paying or not." Bro, to have somebody's mother sit there and say that type of thing. There's zero money involved where
she volunteered just to be like, "Hey, I'll completely bash her even though it's false." I think it's disgusting. And as conservative, what is what was the rep the Democrats thing? When they go low, we go high or whatever the hell that was. You're not supposed to play that game. There is one potential positive is that it could set a precedent when people start looking at this response that in the future people are a little more timid to make such deep personal attacks about childhood trauma. Like this might be a warning sign that they're looking at saying, "Okay, Americans aren't responding to this kind of language anymore, this kind of advertising anymore, this kind of message." But I think you either know or you
don't know. You know whether this is going to be a good at or not. And you're like you're right. Maybe this is going to be something where others in the future like don't attack this area. Don't attack that area. Don't touch this area. Let's kind of keep it here. But politics is a nasty game. And by the way for me, you know, a part of it for me is the logical player where as a marketer in your career, you do a lot of ads. You're like, "That did not land. That was horrible. This landed. Oh my god, that was a bad ad. Oh my god, I never thought this was going to be that good of an ad. Look how much ads leads this ad brought in.
Right? You never know. You know what we learned? This is bad. And by the way, can you run a simple poll? And folks, I want to ask you, does this turn you off? Or are you like, "No way. I'm still showing up. I'm still voting." Does this ad turn you off? Yes. No. I'm curious to know how you would respond to that. Very simple, Paul. I just want to get the numbers on that. If you're not a member yet and you're in Florida or around the country, you want to be a member, go to boardroomcigar lounge.com. Again, boardroomcigar lounge.com. Let's put a link below. Fill out the application. Everybody's a business owner. Uh you do deals with them. Great relationships.
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